Multi-homing was not a requirement.   It was an alternate justification.  I 
can't honestly meet the 50% utilization requirement for a /24, but under the 
pre-September rules I qualified for a /24 under 4.3.2.2 because I contract with 
multiple carriers and want to participate in BGP for failover.

Now that the language in 4.3.2.2 is gone, my reading is I have to either:


a)      Lie about my utilization.  Not willing to do that.

b)      Beg for a BGP-transferrable block from a carrier, and even then, deal 
with the fact that other ISPs are far more likely to aggregate and filter 
specific routes to large carrier-assigned blocks.  I end up with a less 
reliable failover solution.

The policy revision is a significant step backward for me.  Maybe I'm enough of 
an edge case to not matter.  But ARIN-2014-13 stated 4.3.2.2 was redundant 
given the lowered minimum allocation in 4.3.2.1.  It was not redundant.  It 
covered a case that I think matters.

The worst part is, I'm probably going to end up with two non-BGP transferrable 
/24s from two carriers (we all know they hand them out like candy with big 
circuits), so I'll end up burning more IPV4 space than I otherwise would.



Steve King
ICON Aircraft

From: John Von Stein [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:18 PM
To: Richard J. Letts; Steve King; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Multi-homing justification removed?

Speaking from recent / current experience, the multi-homing requirement is a 
bit of a challenge for tweener-sized organizations like QxC.  We are too big 
for underlying fiber carriers to comfortably continue to supply our need for IP 
addresses but not in the position to carry the financial, technical or 
operational challenges of multi-homing.  This was a very significant cost 
commitment for QxC and I can imagine this is not achievable for other 
like-sized ISPs.  Granted, we are better off for it now but had I known how 
much of a financial and technical hurdle this really was then I probably would 
not have done it.  I just needed more IP addresses to continue to grow my biz 
and would have much rather spent the money and manpower on 
marketing/sales/customer acquisition.  Multi-homing is a nice-to-have luxury 
that none of my customers are willing to pay for so it is simply a cost of 
entry to get the IP addresses we need to continue to grow our customer base.

As such, I support dropping multi-homing as a prerequisite for an IP allocation.

Thank you,
John W. Von Stein
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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard J. Letts
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:24 PM
To: Steve King; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Multi-homing justification removed?

I believe the intent was there.

orgs that have a justifiable/provable need for a /24 were been restricted by 
their current/lone provider being unwilling to give them enough address space. 
Not everyone has the ability to change providers, and if you can't change 
providers then you certainly would not be able to multihome..

Richard Letts

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve King
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:47 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [arin-ppml] Multi-homing justification removed?

The changes implemented in ARIN-2014-13, specifically the removal of 4.3.2.2, 
appear to have removed the multi-homing justification for a /24 for end users.  
Previously, the need to multi-home, and proof of contracts with multiple 
upstream providers, was sufficient to justify a /24 to participate in BGP.

For reassignments from ISPs, the language remains in 4.2.3.6.  Users can 
justify a /24 via a requirement to multi-home rather than utilization rate.  
However this revision appears to leave utilization rate as the only criterion 
for direct end-user assignments.

Was this the intent or possibly an overlooked side effect of the change?



Steve King
ICON Aircraft

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