On 14-11-20 12:43 PM, Mike Burns wrote:
Still, in the age of exhaustion the
building case against needs testing "should" also remove multi-homing
as a requirement to acquire your own address block so that you do not
have to constantly renumber or be captive. -Martin Hannigan

I personally would be more amenable to considering a policy change to liberalize the requirements for getting a /24 if/when they're available from the transfer market only.-Scott



Hi Martin and Scott,

Just to present the reminder that 2014-14 would answer here, as it would provide the ability for entities in the sorts of situations being discussed to purchase up to a /16 without a needs test on the transfer market.

2014-14 presents a relief valve for ARIN members facing this issue, and many other known and unforeseeable issues. Transitioning to a paid market for addresses can only be expected to create turbulent conditions. It would be nice for members to know they have a outlet for exigent circumstances built into policy.

Regards,
Mike

My understanding, and the premise on which I acquired a /24, was that multihoming was, in and of itself, sufficient justification for a direct assignment.

It's a multi-stage problem, IMHO:

1a) you can't get a /24 from your upstream if you can't justify the usage [although upstreams are often lax on this rule]
1b) you can't get anything smaller than a /24 from ARIN

2) you can't successfully/usefully advertise or use anything smaller than a /24

3) you typically can't successfully/usefully advertise ISP A's address space (even when correctly delegated) via ISP B. Reasons for this vary from technical (route aggregation &| filtering in large transit networks) to contractual (thou shalt not...) to incompetent (ISP B insists this isn't possible).

You'd think the incompetence-based reasons would weed themselves out over time, but Canada doesn't exactly have a thriving competitive marketplace for transport.


I haven't had time to review the policy (old and new), so I may be basing all on incorrect assumptions. Hoping to make time to re-read both current and past policy on Friday.

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