Hi Richard,
On 25/09/15 06:46, Richard J. Letts wrote:
b)
There is no definitive outcome from the policy change, which makes me feel that
it's not worth changing -- the problem statement argument is weak at best.
the outcome is that everyone that will need IP addresses will be able to
get them. Isn't that quite definitive and clear?
It is potentially enabling organizations with more money than need gain more
resources, potentially at the expense of non-profit and educational
organizations who might not be able to raise cash for additional IPv4 space [or
equipment to support a transition to IPv6].
So, you think that in today's market the non-profit/educational
organizations will have the chance at getting some of the IP space from
the market? And if the needs-based barrier is removed, they will no
longer have that chance?
Everyone knows that the IP address is now an asset and is worth a buck.
Who do you think will say: I'll give it for free to this educational
organization (because they have proven the need to ARIN) instead of
giving it for money to this commercial entity (that may or may not have
a demonstrated need need for it).
I think we need to wake up. Keeping needs-based criteria in the policy
will only cause SOME transfers to be driven underground and block some
others.
Changing policy just to (potentially) improve the accuracy of a database seems
not worth the (potential) risk.
The change of the accuracy of the registry is already proven in the RIPE
region. I would say it's not just potential, it is real and visible.
Richard
regards,
Elvis
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Greetings,
There has been some stimulating dialog about the merits of 2015-9. I'd like to
ask that in addition to any overall support or lack thereof, you also review
the policy language and comment specifically on the changes proposed:
a) For those of you generally in support of this effort, are there any
refinements to the changes made which you think will improve this should these
policy changes be implemented?
b) For those of you generally opposed to this effort, are there any adjustments
to the policy changes which, if implemented, would gain your support?
--
Dani Roisman
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