What about a policy including a grace period before reissue? For instance the 
FCC will not reissue a call sign for two years after validation. This allows 
the original licensee to correct the issue and come back into good grace. What 
if ARIN started handling resources in that manner? They could start by posting 
in arrears notice on the records when the bill is unreasonably past due. At one 
year they could list the record as revoked, and at two years reissue if the 
offending party hasn’t dealt with it?

--Bill

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of David Farmer
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 11:44 PM
To: Seth Mattinen
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2-byte ASN policy


On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Seth Mattinen 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

If the ASN gets legitimately issued to someone else and the squatter proceeds 
to hijack it from the legitimate registrant they should be turned off if the 
ISP is going to do the right thing according to whois.

~Seth

If you forgot to pay your bill and ARIN reissues your ASN, it's a matter of 
perspective who the hijacker is.

I'm not saying it's OK to not pay your bill, but how punitive should we be 
asking ARIN staff to be?  Especially, if ARIN staff has every reason to believe 
the organization using the ASN is the original registrant?  And if we the 
internet routing community are not will to be the bad guys and stop routing it 
after ARIN staff signals us by removing it from the registry.  When what are we 
really expecting?

We're not being very forthright, if we ask ARIN staff to break things that we 
the internet routing community are not will to break ourselves.

Do we really need to recycle these ASN bad enough to cause intentional 
breakage?  Then we need to stop using them in the internet routing system!

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Networking & Telecommunication Services
Office of Information Technology
University of Minnesota
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