On 9/20/2017 11:01 AM, Kevin Blumberg wrote: > > > I am opposed to the policy if it includes “or other Information Technology services”. That would basically be any defined organization that has a website.
Do you have a suggestion of what might be more appropriate wording? We were trying to suggest that a community network might provide more than basic connectivity. On 9/20/2017 10:21 AM, Kevin Blumberg wrote: > Andrew, > > Is this the current text of the policy? > > The text on 2017-8 on the website does not match. The text below includes " > or other Information Technology services" which does not appear on the > website (https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_8.html) > > Can you please confirm which is the correct version, I have written my > repsonses based on the website. > > 1) Can a "Volunteer Group" sign the RSA? I'll let ARIN staff answer this part. > 2) Is charitable organization a synonym or fall under the umbrella of > non-profit? My understanding is that this was intended as a synonym, a list of descriptors that could be used to define a community network. > 3) Why is the scope limited to post-secondary institution when many smaller > communities would not have that? Could accredited educational institution be > used instead? The text has been updated to "educational institution" > 4) I agree with Chris W. that "play a large role" is very ambigous. Do you have a suggestion of text that might be more descriptive? For example would a percentage of revenue / wages ratio be applicable? That was an idea, but I'm not sure one could easily come up with a ratio that works. > 5) The last sentence should be reworded completely. Critical functions may be > handled by paid staff, implies that volunteers shouldn't handle Critical > functions or that paid staff shouldn't handle menial work? Should we substitute "Critical" with "Some"? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Dul > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-8: Amend the > Definition of Community Network > > Hello all, > > We will be discussing this draft proposal at the upcoming ARIN meeting in San > Jose. If you have comments on the updated draft posted below, we'd certainly > like to hear from you so we can help shape the conversation in person. > > We have seen some support for this updated draft, but not a lot. > Furthermore, have we addressed all of your concerns which you might have > noted earlier on the 1st version of the policy text. > > Thanks, > Andrew > > On 8/24/2017 8:22 AM, ARIN wrote: >> >> Draft Policy ARIN-2017-8: Amend the Definition of Community Network >> >> Problem Statement: >> >> The Community Networks section of the NRPM has not been used since >> implementation in January 2010. Proposal ARIN-2016-7, to increase the >> number of use cases, was abandoned by the Advisory Council due to lack >> of feedback. Proposal ARIN 2017-2, to remove all mention of community >> networks from NRPM was met with opposition by the community. Many >> responded that the definition of “community network” was too narrow, >> which could be the reason for lack of uptake. >> >> Policy statement: >> >> CURRENT NRPM TEXT: >> >> “2.11. Community Network >> >> A community network is any network organized and operated by a >> volunteer group operating as or under the fiscal support of a >> nonprofit organization or university for the purpose of providing free >> or low-cost connectivity to the residents of their local service area. >> To be treated as a community network under ARIN policy, the applicant >> must certify to ARIN that the community network staff is 100% >> volunteers.” >> >> NEW NRPM TEXT: >> >> “2.11 Community Network >> >> A community network is a network organized and operated by a volunteer >> group, not-for-profit, non-profit, charitable organization, or >> educational institution for the purpose of providing free or low-cost >> connectivity, or other Information Technology services to persons or >> entities within their community. Critical functions may be handled by >> paid staff, but volunteers play a large role in offering services >> available through community networks.” >> >> Comments: >> >> Timetable for implementation: Immediate _ > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public > Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
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