On 02/05/2019 12:41, Scott Leibrand wrote:
If the hijacker is someone with no relationship with ARIN, we can’t
punish them by kicking them out of a club they’re not a member of. If
you’re ok with ARIN doing nothing about hijacks by entities who don’t
have ARIN resources, fine: that’s the status quo. But if you do want
ARIN to do something on those cases (which I believe are the vast
majority of hijacks) the only action I can see that ARIN could take at
that point is against whichever of their transit providers is
accepting the hijacked routes.
This policy is obviously for ARIN members which is enough for the
region. It couldn't be different.
Other regions (and "clubs") may have similar rules that apply to their
members and if all regions having it will cover majority of members
worldwide.
-Scott
On May 2, 2019, at 7:18 AM, Adam Thompson <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Instead of focusing on whether the current proposal is or isn’t in
scope, I suggest we re-cast the discussion as follows:
1. So far, we have unanimous community agreement that BGP
hijacking is bad.
2. So far, we have broad agreement that “something ought to be
done” about BGP hijacking, although detailed opinions vary
significantly.
3. So what (else) *_can_* ARIN do about it? (Caveat: the answer
“/nothing/” is unacceptable to a significant proportion of PPML
participants.)
My suggested direction to the AC and/or the board would therefore
be: */_Find_/* something ARIN can do to help combat the problem
(more effectively). If this requires expanding the scope of ARIN’s
operations or policies, bring that back to the membership (possibly
via PPML?) with the accompanying financial & legal analysis, as usual.
Now the question becomes: what is the most appropriate mechanism,
within ARIN’s existing policies, to bring a request like that to
the AC and/or Board? It seems clear to me that the petition
already underway here is not meeting, and will not meet, the needs
of the community very well.
-Adam
*Adam Thompson*
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