Everything that is in the waiting list should be limited to a /22 per
request.
There is no sense nor is reasonable now a days to fulfill a request to a
/18 or even a /15 which is the case there.
Perhaps it can be adjusted at some point and more people can be more
fairly served.
Regards
Fernando
On 16/05/2019 11:36, Tom Pruitt wrote:
There are currently 246 entries on the waiting list that were there
prior to the suspension. Maybe some thought should go into allowing
those organizations to get their requested minimum acceptable prefix
size using the 500k addresses ARIN is reclaiming. Anything that was
added to the list after Feb 7 2019 ( the date the suspension was
posted) would be subject to the new policy, whatever that may be.
Tom Pruitt
*From:* ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Tom
Fantacone
*Sent:* Thursday, May 16, 2019 9:01 AM
*To:* John Curran <[email protected]>
*Cc:* arin-ppml <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding
NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests
At 06:18 PM 5/15/2019, John Curran wrote:
On 15 May 2019, at 2:47 PM, Tom Fantacone <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> If we remove the waiting list activity of this one fraudster,
how much
> "statistically likely" fraud is left?
> Was this one bad actor so bad that he accounted for almost all
the likely
> fraud on the waiting list?
> Do we still even have a waiting list problem?
Approximately half of the address blocks that were received from
the waiting list and subsequently transferreed are affiliated with
MICFO entities.
That's a lot of addresses and a high percentage of all waiting list
allocations. The genesis of ARIN suspending the waiting list and
requesting/recommending changes to it to prevent fraud was the
appearance of "likely fraud" based on the behavior of a small handful
of bad actors robbing the waiting list of a large number of
addresses. Am I right to assume that there was really one bad actor
(with a handful of bad aliases)?
Obviously ARIN cannot state with certainty that there is no other
fraud on the list, but if Micfo and its entities had never done what
they did, would ARIN have even seen a problem with the waiting list?
John Sweeting's presentation of suspected waiting list abuse is here:
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJHgs4wWO58
Transcript:
https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_42/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_5
If virtually all this misbehavior was this one guy, and he's been
stopped, do we still want to change the waiting list system and hurt
the overwhelming majority of honest players?
> Perhaps we still want to take strong measures to prevent this from
> happening in the future, but before making that determination,
I'd like
> to know the answers to the above
>
> And on a related note, can anyone at ARIN tell us the total
aggregate
> space that is currently being requested on the waiting list?
The entire waiting list is available here -
https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/waiting_list/
<https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/waiting_list/>
Thanks, John. I was looking for totals but the list was easy enough
to import into a spreadsheet and tally up. By my count the space
being requested totals to roughly 825K addresses, and about 775K is
the "minimum acceptable size" total. The 500K addresses ARIN is
reclaiming will go a long way in satisfying that demand.
Are any of the existing waiting list requests from Micfo entities or
have those already been scrubbed?
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers
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