This is why I think all returns instead should go to the 4.10 IPv4 block to facilitate IPv6 deployment, since everyone using this block must have IPv6 in order to receive space from it.

The idea to take this returned space and serve the remaining wait list with their minimum might be approprate, but after that I agree that we should be having policies that promote IPv6 instead of just putting it off into the far future and ignoring it. Currently there is no policy to have IPv6 in order to receive space from the wait list.

There are suggestions to limit to a /22. Putting all returned space into the 4.10 block would change that to a /24, or let them pay market rates to get space if they require more, or are unwilling to have IPv6.

I would also not have a problem with ARIN placing returns into the market and using the proceeds to reduce the need to raise fees in the future.

While the IPv4 markets are hot right now, there will reach a point in IPv6 adoption when the price curve per IPv4 address will start going down. At this point, the fraudsters will move onto some other more profitable activity.

I am also in favor of policies that require those who receive address space from ARIN by wait list, transfer or otherwise to be required to have IPv6 addresses, and a plan to move to IPv6. ARIN should be using its policies to try to get everyone to start using IPv6.

IPv6 is the Future.  We need our policies to help make it happen.

Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.


On Thu, 16 May 2019, Jimmy Hess wrote:

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 9:27 AM John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:

Perhaps, one could say: that both the Marketplace and the Waitlist
are harmful to exist, since they discourage using IPv6 instead
by providing a "tempting solution" to the run-out situation that is not really a
solution --- the registry operating in an abnormal way where a major
set of number resources can only be transferred from existing holders...
not "freshly allocated" likely encourages fraud.

100% IPv6 deployment should alleviate the v4 registry issues
(by eliminating the utility for v4 space) and thus remove
potential incentives for bad actors.

Perhaps it would make sense to have a requirement such
as "Demonstrate matching IPv6 deployment for all previous
allocations,  and materialized plans for IPv6 deployment in
all  future/applied for allocations"   as

A required condition for receiving resources, whether by marketplace
or by wait list.

...
Some have argued that no such policy is needed at all, and ARIN should simply 
monetize
the number resources and use the proceeds in a manner aligned with its mission 
and
productive to the community, whereas others have indicated that the policy 
provides an
important option for smaller ISPs and organizations who may not be aware of 
IPv4 runout
and are not readily positioned to go the marketplace.   (Neither of these views 
supports
the waiting list policy which was suspended, as it served far more than simply 
smaller entities.)


John Curran
--
-JH
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