I think you underestimate the complexity of enterprise networking, and the relative lack of skill of the folks managing most enterprise networks, largely due to the fact that they can't enforce at-scale standardization as consumer networks do (so they can't just hire a small number of software architects to manage an entire network via automation).
When it comes down to making a decision about whether to implement IPv6, the decision is usually "build vs. buy" - "build" a new network, new server infrastructure, etc., vs. "buy" more IPv4 addresses. On residential networks, they can "build" at a sufficient scale to be cheaper than "buying". On enterprise networks, the "buy" option is usually cheaper (and far less risky to the revenue-generating portions of the business). There are ways to help change that cost/benefit tradeoff, but they involve solving hard problems of both the technical and organizational variety. This policy proposal does nothing to address them. -Scott On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 2:36 PM Mark Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually the arrogance of enterprises in not turning on IPv6 is astounding. > > Their customers are being forced to share IP addresses not only between > their > own machines but between machines from different customers because they > can’t > take the simple step of turning on IPv6 on their servers. No one else can > do that but them. > > The world ran out if IPv4 address in 1995. Stop gaps have kept IPv4 going > since > then and they are getting worse. 20 years to plan to turn on IPv6 and they > still > say they need more time. Thats mega arrogance for you. > > Mark > > > On 8 Nov 2019, at 12:08, Michel Py <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hi Jordi, > > > >> I'm not sure if this is a love or a war declaration ... below ... > > > > This is war, make no mistake. > > > >> In fact, we should aim, as a community (RIRs, IETF, ICANN), to do as > much as we can to start sunseting IPv4 now. > > > > This is why we are at war. In 20 years, you have not yet captured 10% of > the enterprise market and you are talking about sunset ? > > Your arrogance is mind-boggling. You are fighting for the survival of > IPv6. You had your shot at it. For 20 years. Now want to kill my ecosystem, > I will thrown anything I have at yours. No matter how dirty it is. No > matter how much people will hate me. Not being nice anymore. > > > > Michel. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-PPML > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > > -- > Mark Andrews, ISC > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >
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