> On Sep 21, 2021, at 10:27 , Fernando Frediani <[email protected]> wrote: > > Em 21/09/2021 14:22, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML escreveu: >> This policy doesn’t affect that… Leasing of address space you already have >> is permitted under current policy and cannot be grounds for revocation of >> address space. >> >> The change in this policy proposal is not to permit or deny leasing, but to >> permit leased addresses to be considered utilized for purposes of >> determining eligibility for additional address acquisition. > Which makes this proposal even worst and not beneficial to anyone except to > those who profit from these leases. > I guess that depends on how you define those that profit from the leases.
If you mean those who can obtain addresses without a massive capital outlay and those issuing the leases, then sure. If you mean only those issuing the leases, then I think you are missing a constituency here. In reality, if leasing benefited noone besides the lessors, we wouldn’t have leasing in the first place. Nobody subscribes to a business offering they do not believe is to their benefit. > How on earth can leased addresses be considered something normal or > acceptable to justify for additional address acquisition ? This is so out of > mind that it is hard to understand how can this be even proposed. > I don’t honestly have an opinion or care one way or another about the policy, but leasing of addresses with or without connectivity has been normal since the inception of LIRs. Owen > Fernando > >> >> Owen >> >> >>> On Sep 21, 2021, at 08:22 , Chris Woodfield <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Writing in opposition. I do not support the practice of leasing IP address >>> resources. Organizations who have received larger amounts of IP address >>> space than what they are efficiently utilizing are free to relieve >>> themselves of their excess space via the transfer market. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -Chris >>> >>>> On Sep 21, 2021, at 8:06 AM, ARIN <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 16 September 2021, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted >>>> "ARIN-prop-302: Remove Circuit Requirement " as a Draft Policy. >>>> >>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6 is below and can be found at: >>>> >>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_6/ >>>> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_6/> >>>> >>>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will >>>> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft >>>> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated >>>> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles >>>> are: >>>> >>>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration >>>> * Technically Sound >>>> * Supported by the Community >>>> >>>> The PDP can be found at: >>>> >>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ >>>> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/> >>>> >>>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: >>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ >>>> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Sean Hopkins >>>> Senior Policy Analyst >>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) >>>> >>>> >>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2021-6: Remove Circuit Requirement >>>> >>>> Problem Statement: >>>> >>>> Current ARIN policy prevents the use of leased-out addresses as evidence >>>> of utilization. >>>> >>>> Policy statement: >>>> >>>> Replace >>>> >>>> “2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an >>>> IR that primarily assigns address space to the users of the network >>>> services that it provides. LIRs are generally Internet Service Providers >>>> (ISPs), whose customers are primarily end users and possibly other ISPs.” >>>> >>>> with >>>> >>>> “2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an >>>> IR that primarily assigns address space to users of the network. LIRs are >>>> generally Internet Service Providers (ISPs), whose customers are primarily >>>> end users and possibly other ISPs.” >>>> >>>> Timetable for implementation: Immediate >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ARIN-PPML >>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>). >>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >>>> <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> >>>> Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any >>>> issues. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-PPML >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >>> <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> >>> Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any >>> issues. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> >> Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any >> issues. > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
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