Mike,

I will disagree. The proposal is to require an explanation. The letter you got 
was not an explanation, it was a clear exercise of the nominating committees 
option not to explain themselves if they choose not to.

If they were required to provide an explanation to candidates, I do not believe 
this letter would meet that requirement. If you have any ideas on wording to 
create a more effective
requirement that clarifies that fact, I would love to know what you might 
propose.

Owen


> On Nov 4, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Mike Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Martin, 
> 
> Oh I didn't expect much, that's why I didn't ask for this letter in the 
> beginning. When it arrived it just confirmed my suspicions and I posted it to 
> allow others to understand that merely requiring this letter will do nothing 
> to fix the situation.
> 
> It's only because I want Arin to continue doing a good job that I am pressing 
> this issue.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> 
> ---- On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 13:36:06 -0400 [email protected] wrote ----
> 
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I’m not sure I would’ve expected anything  different. 
> 
> BTW: Lets not forget that ARIN does a good job overall. BoT. AC. NRO NC. And 
> the staff. Its a team effort. And we are part of the team. Vote!
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> -M<
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 11:53 Patrick W. Gilmore <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Sounds to me like a lawyer wrote it, not a member of the NomCom.
> 
> Which implies the NomCom was not allowed to answer.
> 
> -- 
> TTFN,
> patrick
> 
> On Nov 4, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Scott Leibrand <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> This is very disappointing. Under the process to date, it was the NomCom's 
> prerogative not to provide an explanation. But this non-explanation makes a 
> mockery of the entire concept of an explanation. It literally says nothing 
> about why the candidate was not selected. It simply restates the NomCom's 
> charter and their decision.
> 
> If this is the kind of obfuscatory behavior we're going to get out of 
> requiring explanations under the current process, then that process needs to 
> be changed more radically than I thought.
> 
> -Scott
> 
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 9:37 AM Mike Burns <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> 
> I received the explanation for my exclusion from this year's AC slate. 
> 
> 
> For those who believe this explanation provides any transparency, I post it 
> in its totality below to disabuse them of that notion.
> 
> 
> Required explanations don't move the needle at all in attempting to improve 
> the nominations process. 
> 
> 
> Perhaps all it would take would be a simple change to the charging language 
> to instruct the nomcom not to exclude candidates who are qualified and 
> include those minimum qualifications?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Mr. Burns,
> 
> The ARIN Nomination Committee (NomCom) is in receipt of your request for an 
> explanatory statement on the reasons why you were not included on the 
> Advisory Council candidate slate for the 2021 ARIN Elections. The ARIN NomCom 
> reviewed all duly submitted and timely nominations and the materials provided 
> by the nominees. The NomCom’s robust deliberation process was informed by the 
> diversity of perspectives and experience among NomCom Members and strong 
> adherence to the mandate and terms of reference. 
> 
> Various factors were considered including, but not limited to, experience, 
> involvement in the ARIN community, and responses to the nominee 
> questionnaires.  After careful and thoughtful review of each nominee, it was 
> decided to not put your Advisory Council nomination forward onto the initial 
> slate of candidates this year.  
> 
> Catherine Middleton
> Chair, ARIN Nomination Committee 2021
> 
> 
> 
> 
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