IHi Owen,

I haven't yet formulated a proposal. I have formulated a goal which is to state 
objective public qualifications as a threshold for nomination with the removal 
of the NomCom's ability to restrict those who meet the threshold.


As a guide I suggest we refer to the RIPE model which does allow 
self-nomination with the support of five members.


I agree that there was no requirement to receive this letter which makes it all 
the more mysterious that it was generated and sent in his current form.


Regards,

Mike


Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10e.

 ---- On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 16:36:36 -0400  o...@delong.com  wrote ----Mike,I 
will disagree. The proposal is to require an explanation. The letter you got 
was not an explanation, it was a clear exercise of the nominating committees 
option not to explain themselves if they choose not to.If they were required to 
provide an explanation to candidates, I do not believe this letter would meet 
that requirement. If you have any ideas on wording to create a more 
effectiverequirement that clarifies that fact, I would love to know what you 
might propose.OwenOn Nov 4, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Mike Burns <m...@iptrading.com> 
wrote:Hi Martin, Oh I didn't expect much, that's why I didn't ask for this 
letter in the beginning. When it arrived it just confirmed my suspicions and I 
posted it to allow others to understand that merely requiring this letter will 
do nothing to fix the situation.It's only because I want Arin to continue doing 
a good job that I am pressing this issue.Regards,Mike ---- On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 
13:36:06 -0400  hanni...@gmail.com  wrote ----Mike,I’m not sure I would’ve 
expected anything  different. BTW: Lets not forget that ARIN does a good job 
overall. BoT. AC. NRO NC. And the staff. Its a team effort. And we are part of 
the team. Vote!Warm regards,-M<On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 11:53 Patrick W. Gilmore 
<patr...@ianai.net> wrote:Sounds to me like a lawyer wrote it, not a member of 
the NomCom.Which implies the NomCom was not allowed to answer.
-- TTFN,patrick

On Nov 4, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibr...@gmail.com> 
wrote:This is very disappointing. Under the process to date, it was the 
NomCom's prerogative not to provide an explanation. But this non-explanation 
makes a mockery of the entire concept of an explanation. It literally says 
nothing about why the candidate was not selected. It simply restates the 
NomCom's charter and their decision.If this is the kind of obfuscatory behavior 
we're going to get out of requiring explanations under the current process, 
then that process needs to be changed more radically than I thought.-ScottOn 
Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 9:37 AM Mike Burns <m...@iptrading.com> wrote:Hello list,I 
received the explanation for my exclusion from this year's AC slate. For those 
who believe this explanation provides any transparency, I post it in its 
totality below to disabuse them of that notion.Required explanations don't move 
the needle at all in attempting to improve the nominations process. Perhaps all 
it would take would be a simple change to the charging language to instruct the 
nomcom not to exclude candidates who are qualified and include those minimum 
qualifications?Regards,MikeDear Mr. Burns,The ARIN Nomination Committee 
(NomCom) is in receipt of your request for an explanatory statement on the 
reasons why you were not included on the Advisory Council candidate slate for 
the 2021 ARIN Elections. The ARIN NomCom reviewed all duly submitted and timely 
nominations and the materials provided by the nominees. The NomCom’s robust 
deliberation process was informed by the diversity of perspectives and 
experience among NomCom Members and strong adherence to the mandate and terms 
of reference. Various factors were considered including, but not limited to, 
experience, involvement in the ARIN community, and responses to the nominee 
questionnaires.  After careful and thoughtful review of each nominee, it was 
decided to not put your Advisory Council nomination forward onto the initial 
slate of candidates this year.  Catherine MiddletonChair, ARIN Nomination 
Committee 2021_______________________________________________
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