Now that I look, RIPEstat tells me that someone from Russia *did* use those addresses. (AS46640, since the data's public...) So I can state with confidence that not having a better way to clean up zombie/orphans does lead to misuse. -Adam
Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services MERLIN 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) [email protected] www.merlin.mb.ca > -----Original Message----- > From: ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adam > Thompson > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 4:32 PM > To: William Herrin <[email protected]>; Ted Mittelstaedt <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Have we REALLY got to this sad state of disrepair? > > I would like a mechanism to do this, or something closely related - nominate > blocks we know are orphans. For example, I obtained a legacy /24 for my > employer in the early '90s. That company is no longer in business. I can > guarantee the block isn't (or shouldn't be) in use on the public internet. I > know the owner never sold it, because I was working with him on that. But > I have no way to *prove* its abandonment. So there it sits, forever > inaccessible. I mean, I could squat on it :-) but that's called "being part > of > the problem". > The amount of effort it was going to require on my part and the company > owner's just to get it released back into the free pool, never mind sell it, > was > prohibitive. (I've had this discussion with Cathy(?) @ Member Services > before, getting things notarized in Manitoba is a VERY significant burden, in > time, in travel, and in cost, compared to other jurisdictions.) > There really ought to be a better solution to that - everyone on this list is > probably aware of some zombie/orphan allocations they've been involved > with. > Within ARIN's current stance/perspective on legal issues (which I've > criticized before, here), though, I don't see any easy fix. > -Adam > > Adam Thompson > Consultant, Infrastructure Services > MERLIN > 100 - 135 Innovation Drive > Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 > (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) > [email protected] > www.merlin.mb.ca > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> On Behalf Of William > > Herrin > > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 8:55 PM > > To: Ted Mittelstaedt <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Have we REALLY got to this sad state of disrepair? > > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:00 PM Ted Mittelstaedt <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > ARIN has been pussyfooting around long enough with these zombie > > > resources, by now CKN23-ARIN should NEVER appear tied to a number > > > resource. Please, get on the stick and get these resources freed so > > > they can be used. > > > > Hi Ted, > > > > I look forward to your policy proposal in which an IP broker or other > > interested party can be granted care of a zombie legacy block, perform > > the legal diligence needed to justify releasing its registration, > > arrange the proper indemnity for ARIN should they have it wrong, and > > subsequently arrange its transfer to a new registrant. > > > > There are, of course, no non-legacy zombie blocks. The non-legacy > > blocks unavailable for assignment are in cool-down which is a > > different thing entirely. > > > > Regards, > > Bill Herrin > > > > -- > > William Herrin > > [email protected] > > https://bill.herrin.us/ > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-PPML > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
