Is it necessary for a third party to have to prove that categorically ?
My understanding is that it should be enough to send fair amount of
evidences to the RIR and it has the duty to get in touch with that
organization to gather information and if necessary ask them to justify
if the justifications given in the past remain valid (if there is any
response), and if not then simply recover the block, isn't it ? That
should be that natural path for these things to happen.
If a block is abandoned for a long time, there is no response for the
said resources holder then recover it and assign to someone else that
really justify for that now a days.
Fernando
On 12/04/2022 18:32, Adam Thompson wrote:
I would like a mechanism to do this, or something closely related - nominate blocks we
know are orphans. For example, I obtained a legacy /24 for my employer in the early
'90s. That company is no longer in business. I can guarantee the block isn't (or
shouldn't be) in use on the public internet. I know the owner never sold it, because I
was working with him on that. But I have no way to *prove* its abandonment. So there it
sits, forever inaccessible. I mean, I could squat on it :-) but that's called
"being part of the problem".
The amount of effort it was going to require on my part and the company owner's
just to get it released back into the free pool, never mind sell it, was
prohibitive. (I've had this discussion with Cathy(?) @ Member Services before,
getting things notarized in Manitoba is a VERY significant burden, in time, in
travel, and in cost, compared to other jurisdictions.)
There really ought to be a better solution to that - everyone on this list is
probably aware of some zombie/orphan allocations they've been involved with.
Within ARIN's current stance/perspective on legal issues (which I've criticized
before, here), though, I don't see any easy fix.
-Adam
Adam Thompson
Consultant, Infrastructure Services
MERLIN
100 - 135 Innovation Drive
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only)
athomp...@merlin.mb.ca
www.merlin.mb.ca
-----Original Message-----
From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net> On Behalf Of William
Herrin
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 8:55 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt <t...@ipinc.net>
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Have we REALLY got to this sad state of disrepair?
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:00 PM Ted Mittelstaedt <t...@ipinc.net>
wrote:
ARIN has been pussyfooting around long enough with these zombie
resources, by now CKN23-ARIN should NEVER appear tied to a number
resource. Please, get on the stick and get these resources freed so
they can be used.
Hi Ted,
I look forward to your policy proposal in which an IP broker or other
interested party can be granted care of a zombie legacy block, perform
the legal diligence needed to justify releasing its registration,
arrange the proper indemnity for ARIN should they have it wrong, and
subsequently arrange its transfer to a new registrant.
There are, of course, no non-legacy zombie blocks. The non-legacy
blocks unavailable for assignment are in cool-down which is a
different thing entirely.
Regards,
Bill Herrin
--
William Herrin
b...@herrin.us
https://bill.herrin.us/
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