There is nothing absurd with the waiting list in my view. Simply there
aren't enough IPv4 recover to fulfill the demand in the waiting list and
that is quiet expected for a couple of years already
Maybe some people didn't get or accepted the full picture and still have
high expectations to get something which hardly will happen and may end
up causing some anger.
What needs to change in terms of waiting list in my view is to limit it
only to organizations that have no IPv4 at all so it gives more chances
for newcomers to start with with a bare minimal of a /22.
Fernando
On 07/10/2024 11:01, Mike Burns via ARIN-PPML wrote:
Hello,
The current waiting list situation is absurd.
We are requiring and performing a 2 year justification for addresses that won't
be delivered for 3 years.
It's the kind of bureaucratic stupidity that is a sign of poor governance.
Something has to change to avoid the optics. This proposal would at least bring
the justifications in line with the deliveries.
There have been some suggested changes, including bumping the /24 to a /23 and
grandfathering current list members.
Maybe we could get some staff feedback on how these changes might affect the
list size and duration?
Wasn't there just a distribution in the ARIN-ISSUED report that would change
the situation?
Regards,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> On Behalf Of William Herrin
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2024 4:23 AM
To: Denis Motova <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation
On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 5:28 PM Denis Motova <[email protected]> wrote:
Like Fernando, I'm not entirely convinced that reducing the /22 to a
/24 offers significant benefits beyond potentially shortening the waiting list.
In my view, a /24 (256 IPs) feels quite limiting. I’d be more
supportive of a /23 (512 IPs), as a /24 seems too small to accommodate
the growth\ needs of startups and new businesses.
Hi Denis,
Bear in mind that a startup or new business remains eligible to acquire
addresses on the market even after receiving an allocation from the waiting
list. I'm dubious of the proposition that an adequately funded startup can
afford to wait for addresses to become available on the waiting list.
The waiting list, in its current incarnation, seems to me like more of a tool
for hobbyists and charities -- folks doing something on a shoestring budget
that doesn't have to be done on a timeline. And of course folks gaming the
system with manufactured justifications to get something for free. The latter
group can afford to wait as long as it takes.
Regards,
Bill Herrin
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https://bill.herrin.us/
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