Hi Marty,

The current waiting list has the following maximum approved sizes:

/22
316
44.32%
/23
66
9.26%
/24
331
46.42%

The last distribution was:

/22
62
52.99%
/23
13
11.11%
/24
42
35.90%



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On Oct 7, 2024, at 10:14 PM, Martin Hannigan <[email protected]> wrote:



Whats the distribution of requests by prefix size %?

Thanks John.



On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 13:40 John Sweeting 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Q: Wasn't there just a distribution in the ARIN-ISSUED report that would change 
the situation?

A: Yes, there were 318 /24s allocated to 117 organizations on the waitlist last 
week. There were 819 organizations on the waitlist at the time of distribution 
with 702 remaining upon completion of the distribution. The oldest request was 
from January 31, 2023 (20 months)  and the newest request filled was from April 
25, 2023 (17 months). If the maximum allocated had been limited to /24 by 
policy then 318 requests would have been filled leaving 501 remaining on the 
list with the newest request being filled near the end of September 2023 (12 
months).

Please let us know if you have any further questions. Thanks.

From: ARIN-PPML <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
on behalf of Mike Burns via ARIN-PPML 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Monday, October 7, 2024 at 10:01 AM
To: 'William Herrin' <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 'Denis Motova' 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation
Hello,

The current waiting list situation is absurd.
We are requiring and performing a 2 year justification for addresses that won't 
be delivered for 3 years.
It's the kind of bureaucratic stupidity that is a sign of poor governance.

Something has to change to avoid the optics. This proposal would at least bring 
the justifications in line with the deliveries.
There have been some suggested changes, including bumping the /24 to a /23 and 
grandfathering current list members.
Maybe we could get some staff feedback on how these changes might affect the 
list size and duration?

Wasn't there just a distribution in the ARIN-ISSUED report that would change 
the situation?

Regards,
Mike




-----Original Message-----
From: ARIN-PPML <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
On Behalf Of William Herrin
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2024 4:23 AM
To: Denis Motova <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2023-8: Reduce 4.1.8 Maximum Allocation

On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 5:28 PM Denis Motova 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Like Fernando, I'm not entirely convinced that reducing the /22 to a
> /24 offers significant benefits beyond potentially shortening the waiting 
> list.
> In my view, a /24 (256 IPs) feels quite limiting. I’d be more
> supportive of a /23 (512 IPs), as a /24 seems too small to accommodate
> the growth\ needs of startups and new businesses.

Hi Denis,

Bear in mind that a startup or new business remains eligible to acquire 
addresses on the market even after receiving an allocation from the waiting 
list. I'm dubious of the proposition that an adequately funded startup can 
afford to wait for addresses to become available on the waiting list.

The waiting list, in its current incarnation, seems to me like more of a tool 
for hobbyists and charities -- folks doing something on a shoestring budget 
that doesn't have to be done on a timeline. And of course folks gaming the 
system with manufactured justifications to get something for free. The latter 
group can afford to wait as long as it takes.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
https://bill.herrin.us/
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