Hence why I agree entirely: the word libre should not be in the logo. This shouldn't stop us from making subtle hints to the fact it is something of a community that believes libre should be universal, inside the logo.
On 1/27/17, Allan Mwenda <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, the EOMA68-A20 is only fully libre in the libre tea card version. > Now that I think further into it, are the standard/hardware designs some > sort of copyleft to compell third parties to also share their card designs > back? > Anyway, it is very likely that if someone else picks this up, who isn't as > diligent as Luke, they will make a not so libre card and try passing it off > as libre using the logo (if it says so in the eoma logo, and the card passes > eoma certification) FSFs definition is the strictest and the RYF > certification is already worth its weight, in that, if you can convince FSF > something is libre, there's very little chance it isn't. A good example is > the Librem 13 laptop, which was initially marketed as libre ( but wasn't > even close) which breezed it through funding and is now marketed as "privacy > respecting" after failing RYF. > > > On January 27, 2017 12:39:46 PM GMT+03:00, John Luke Gibson > <[email protected]> wrote: >>There are two ways to interprete that bear in mind. >>We probably want the logo to contain libre (or references/parts >>thereof), but you would be right to say we probably don't want libre >>itself in the logo. >> >>We don't want to hinge too much on the fact we promote libre, because >>optimally libre would be ~~assumed~~ in all things computer. We don't >>want to set the theme that it should be a buzz word, however it should >>represent a standard of the way things simply should be. >> >>That being said, while we don't want libre to symbolize eoma, we still >>want eoma to symbolize libre and we still want a logo which reminds >>people of that and allows the one's who care to take solace in the >>presence of our logo. Don't forget! >> >>On 1/27/17, Allan Mwenda <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Definitely no cats too. >>> I think the caps font used in the logo example previously is great. >>> Adding to that, I think we should not put libre in the logo. If >>someone >>> wants that let them sweat extra for RYF certification. >>> >>> >>> On January 26, 2017 10:04:56 AM GMT+03:00, John Luke Gibson >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>I would highly recommend avoiding any logos, without proper >>historical >>>>reference. One of the problems with traditional Linux icons, are that >>>>they are very un-iconic. It's better to be textually based, in my >>>>opinion, than to use disorienting imagery. At this point, most of the >>>>clay has already set so referencing/alluding-to other gnu projects >>>>[such as blender] wouldn't be detrimental, however ascii has a very >>>>richer history of use by "hacktivists". >>>> >>>>Referencing some historically relevant (to "hacktivism") ascii >>>>iconography either overtly or subtly, kindof more or less as a hat >>tip >>>>to communities which support said historical events will cause the >>>>logo a greater likelihood of being regarded as iconic. I wish I had >>>>specific examples, but possibly using cloister black font would be a >>>>subtle hat tip to anonymous for some individuals use of various >>>>letters in that font as copy-cat of L from Death Note. >>>> >>>>Another thing of note, would be that we need to be careful who we tip >>>>our hats to, to be careful of who in the future people might assume >>us >>>>to endorse. A font is innocuous enough, that it can be adapted later >>>>due to circumstance (should a need arise to disassociate) without >>>>damaging the recognize-ability of any logo. >>>> >>>>The universal and modular style of blender, is a good point to mimic. >>>>A solid dot in the center of the "O" would probably be a subtle >>enough >>>>correlation to the blender logo. >>>> >>>>This is the pattern of thinking we need in developing logos and >>>>"slogans". >>>> >>>>Thinking about what sounds catchy only correlates us with random >>>>corporate culture. We don't need to be entirely original as we have a >>>>history to fall back on. However originality might also help >>>>distinguish us from our predecessors, the last thing we want is to >>>>fail to distinguish ourselves from your neighborhood corporation. >>>> >>>>I would recommend Luke to contact Wenqing Yang a.k.a. "Yummei", using >>>>the notability of the project to attract their attention. I would >>like >>>>to point out that despite being a cultural figure (famous artist) in >>>>the hacktivist community they previously lauched a multi-million >>>>dollar successful indiegogo which caused them much heart ache (per >>>>their blog) over legal controversy with so-called partners and their >>>>personal admonishment that they failed to do enough. >>>> >>>>>From: Alexander Ross <[email protected]> >>>>>To: Linux on small ARM machines <[email protected]> >>>>>Cc: >>>>>Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 16:07:15 +0000 >>>>>Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] Logos >>>>>this all these efforts, got me to have a play around too. :) >>>>> >>>>> i was started having a go at one idea of letters inserting into >>each >>>>> other kinda like a module. >>>>> >>>>> I had put E and O in side the M. it then kinda looked like/spelled >>>>Meoo >>>>> like a cat. >>>>> So what about a darn cat logo? maybe a cat playing with a eoma68 >>card >>>>in >>>>> its paws? >>>>> >>>>> sry for the yet another internet cat image type of suggestion, >>never >>>>> thought id be making one heh. >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>arm-netbook mailing list [email protected] >>>>http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook >>>>Send large attachments to [email protected] >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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