On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Richard Wilbur
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> when i show X-ray-mode gerbers layers 1 & 2 i mark in yellow at top a
>> proposed modification, look good?  you can see to pin 4 there is that
>> GND via, the shape of the hole gets really weird / sharp edges there.
>
> I'm not seeing the weird / sharp edges so you must have fixed them?

 i think so... you checked the video?  i''ll do a close-up tomorrow
(5am here now)

>> also i'm aware that the layer 2 and 5 bottom-most
>> curved-shaped-keepout-holes are about 1 mil too far to the left, see
>> yellow (SE corner) where i'll move them both over.
>
> Again, I'm not seeing a problem so you must have fixed it.
>
>>> 2.  At the west boundary I see your point regarding layers 4 and 5.
>>> Looks like you have made a good solution.
>>> I suppose you could add 5mil additional overlap.
>>> How much overlap does it currently have?
>>
>> currently arouuund 9mil roughly.
>>
>>> How much opening from the edge of the keepout
>>> on layer 4 to the edge of the closest connector pads?
>>
>> around 4mil.  tracks are 5mil so can use that as a scale.
>
> In that case I think you have done enough.  The overlap looks good.

 whewwww :)

>>> Some of the adjustments on layer 6 might be taken care of by
>>> modifying the net groups to create an "HDMI High-Frequency"
>>> group which contains only the differential pairs {HTX2P, HTX2N, HTX1P,
>>> HTX1N, HTX0P, HTX0N, HTXCP, HTXCN}, apply the 15mil conditional
>>> clearance rule to that group.
>>
>> that's what's already done :)
>>
>> oh, except to VIAs i kept it at 5mil, now i remember.   15 mil to
>> landing pads, 15 mil to tracks, 5mil to VIAs i think this was because
>> i didn't want the holes made by VIAs to be too large.  what you think?
>> make them 15mil too?
>
> I'm not as worried about the holes left by the vias on the east (connector) 
> end as the west (processor) end of the differential pairs if we expanded 
> clearance to 15mil.  I'm guessing we have more current flowing through layers 
> 2,4,5 over there.  I guess the question boils down to, "Where are the power 
> sources and sinks (including decoupling capacitors) relative to the HDMI 
> high-frequency signal vias?"  If the vias make holes on a line connecting 
> power sources to sinks, then we need to either make sure there is plenty of 
> copper providing a path around the holes or minimize the size of the holes.

 i'll check it again tomorrow but the 5VDC runs along layer 4 right
underneath the HDMI long E-W traces.  layer 4 3V3 plane was a dog's
dinner mess that i had to tidy up last year, and, actually, removing
the legacy TSSOP-48 NAND finally actually allowed me to adjust things
so that it wasn't a total swiss cheese.

 in geeeneral i'm happy with the power / GND layout, i've been paying
attention to it.

l.

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