Hi Qicheng.

Definitely ENSG, as that will use all the probes for all transcripts.

Cheers,
Mark

On 2010-08-31, at 10:59 AM, Qicheng Ma wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
>          I looked at their customCDF file, I feel it would be easier to use 
> their CDF file  and modify the transcript annotation  and  probe sequence 
> files than to modify the Affy CDF file.  However, they provide CDF files to 
> both genes (ENSG) and transcripts (ENST).
> 
>          Could you tell me whether it make more sense to use CDF for ENSG or 
> CDF for ENST for alternative splicing analysis with exon arrary by FirmaGene ?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Qicheng
> 
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Qicheng Ma <qicheng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
>       Thank for your quick reply. If I can make a custom CDF myself according 
> to FirmaGene requirement:
> 
> 1)need a CDF file where all the probes (cells) are within 1 group ... AND, 
> 2)need to ensure that the order of the probes is the order in which they map 
> to the genome/transcript.
> 
>        what kind of info do I need to extract from the HuEx-1_0-st-v2,coreR3,
> A20071112,EP.cdf file to satisfy those two requirement.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Qicheng
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Mark Robinson <mrobin...@wehi.edu.au> wrote:
> Hi Qicheng.
> 
> I don't think that particular CDF will work with FIRMAGene, since it is laid 
> out in a list of lists (probes -- "cells", for probe selection regions or 
> "groups" -- are laid out within transcript clusters -- "units").  The 
> cell/group/unit are CDF speak.
> 
> Basically, in order for FIRMAGene to work (and note that I haven't run 
> FIRMAGene on the Exon platform myself), you need a CDF file where all the 
> probes (cells) are within 1 group ... AND, you need to ensure that the order 
> of the probes is the order in which they map to the genome/transcript.  This 
> is what FIRMAGene assumes.
> 
> I believe the CDF files created by brainarray:
> 
> http://brainarray.mbni.med.umich.edu/Brainarray/Database/CustomCDF/CDF_download.asp
> 
> ... are organized this way, but you'd have to verify that for yourself.
> 
> Hope that gets you started.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mark
> 
> On 2010-08-27, at 6:36 AM, Qicheng Ma wrote:
> 
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> >       Could you please tell me whether we can run FirmaGene 
> > (http://bioinf.wehi.edu.au/folders/firmagene/sup3_04feb2010.R) on human 
> > exon array using CDF file HuEx-1_0-st-v2,coreR3,A20071112,EP.cdf , since 
> > FirmaGene score would be more useful than Firma score from individual exons 
> > ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Qicheng
> 
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