Hi Pavana,
 
I thought that music based on classical are meant to be inspired, not copied. Is anyone creating new classical music anymore? then it should not be called classical. You have to expand on what you mean by "heavily inspired". Please be more specific. And we should also remember that if someone sings a Saint Thyagaraja composition it doe'nt mean that he has copied the song. In a similar vein, if different lyrics are sung based on a classical composition even if it exactly resembles the original will not be a copy in my books. opinions might vary.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy of Sowkkiyama song!!!

Hi Karthik,

    If you see the place where Nityashree sings
"Suriyan vanthu vaa enum pothu..." it is DITTO DITTO
COPY OF "Vaanathil meedu mayil aada kanden...".  There
is a lot of difference between inspiration and lift.
I would NOT AGREE with you in this regard.  ARR might
have classical knowledge which I don't deny but most
of his classical songs are HEAVILY INSPIRED.. Another
one which I remember is "En veettu thottathil..."  If
you listen to the original version (which I am not
sure..) is exactly the same.

Rgds,
Pavana Kumar C.M

--- Karthik S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pavana,
>
> I do not appreciate your enthusiasm...because it is
> misdirected...the song
> that you are referring to here is a famous MS
> Subbulakshmi song called
> "Vanaththil meedhu mayil aada kanden mayil kuil
> aachudhadi"...The point is
> both the songs are based in same raaga Mandu and
> hence the resemblence...The
> song I guess is written my Paapanasam sivan (correct
> me if I am wrong)...It
> is quite famous...How can you say ARR copied the
> song when all he did is use
> the raaga...If you remember seeing TV , there was a
> program in Vijay TV(Old
> Vijay) when this film was released and Actor Rehman
> was going round the city
> and meeting people gathering opinion about the film
> and the music...In one
> instance, he stopped in front of some 3 elders
> (senior citizens) and asked
> about the songs..They said that till then they had
> only heard ARR with only
> electronic sounds and vessel braking noise(one
> person mentioned it in a
> lighter vain)...but with sangamam, ARR gave some
> pure classical song with
> out  playing around Ragaas...They specifically
> mentioned this nithyashree's
> song and how it satisfied hardcore carnatic lovers
> like them..
>
> Just for clarification purpose let me bring in IR
> (here just for
> example)...many would have heard IR's classic called
> Mogamul...there is a
> song called "Sollaayo vai thirandhu" in raaga
> Shanmuga priya..If you listen
> to that it will be exactly like a replica of
> "Vilayada idhu nerama" - a
> famous carnatic song made popular my Maharajapuram
> Santhaanam...I did not
> see any body claiming it to be a copied stuff...ALL
> we need it is a little
> bit of common sense and understanding about
> classical music and its
> adaptation..Certain raagas can be improvised and
> certain cannot be and hence
> one has to play it as per the strictures.
>
> Hope this clarifies..
>
> regards,
> Karthik
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pavana Kumar CM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy
> of Sowkkiyama song!!!
>
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >     This song is a direct lift by ARR from some
> > popular carnatic tamil song.  I can't remember the
> > song.  Both are in Mandu raaga... Actually his
> > classical numbers have a lot of inspiration from
> > popular carnatic keerthanas.
> >
> >     The song goes like "...mayilaada kanden... "
> It
> > is so evident especially when you hear the 1st
> > charanam...  If somebody can give the name of the
> song
> > it will be helpful
> >
> > Rgds,
> > Pavana Kumar C.M
> >
>
>
>


           
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