Many a time I have come across ppl saying ARR has copied or copies when asked where they will not b able to recollect which song. I dont know how to appreciate them with, bcos without knowledge of music though they are able to remeber ragaas. Pavan seems to be much like that. even when karthik has clarified so well, If he cannot agree it is his individual potential problem of not trying to understand. But rather try to be on limelight by making these kind of comments. pavan be clear just by one line or a bit U cannot declare it as a copy. If somebody say that the beats of Anbe from kadhal desam is a copy of Enigma it can be agreed (not sure if it was a loop that was been used by Enigma troop and ARR as well. But just hardly one sentence.... I think according to u one must reinvent raagas. Now what is that u want to prove, ARR doesnt match IR for SB. It might be a total folly to compare. If u think IR is unmatched go listen to some of the old classics in Kannada by GK Venkatesh who is also the guru for IR. U may have to take back thewords. Bcos I still feel that IR was not able to match GKV interms of his blend in harmony or melody at those ages. though IR got his own adv with technology later on.
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 02:15:18 -0800 (PST), Pavana Kumar CM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Karthik, > > If you see the place where Nityashree sings > "Suriyan vanthu vaa enum pothu..." it is DITTO DITTO > COPY OF "Vaanathil meedu mayil aada kanden...". There > is a lot of difference between inspiration and lift. > I would NOT AGREE with you in this regard. ARR might > have classical knowledge which I don't deny but most > of his classical songs are HEAVILY INSPIRED.. Another > one which I remember is "En veettu thottathil..." If > you listen to the original version (which I am not > sure..) is exactly the same. > > Rgds, > Pavana Kumar C.M > > --- Karthik S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pavana, > > > > I do not appreciate your enthusiasm...because it is > > misdirected...the song > > that you are referring to here is a famous MS > > Subbulakshmi song called > > "Vanaththil meedhu mayil aada kanden mayil kuil > > aachudhadi"...The point is > > both the songs are based in same raaga Mandu and > > hence the resemblence...The > > song I guess is written my Paapanasam sivan (correct > > me if I am wrong)...It > > is quite famous...How can you say ARR copied the > > song when all he did is use > > the raaga...If you remember seeing TV , there was a > > program in Vijay TV(Old > > Vijay) when this film was released and Actor Rehman > > was going round the city > > and meeting people gathering opinion about the film > > and the music...In one > > instance, he stopped in front of some 3 elders > > (senior citizens) and asked > > about the songs..They said that till then they had > > only heard ARR with only > > electronic sounds and vessel braking noise(one > > person mentioned it in a > > lighter vain)...but with sangamam, ARR gave some > > pure classical song with > > out playing around Ragaas...They specifically > > mentioned this nithyashree's > > song and how it satisfied hardcore carnatic lovers > > like them.. > > > > Just for clarification purpose let me bring in IR > > (here just for > > example)...many would have heard IR's classic called > > Mogamul...there is a > > song called "Sollaayo vai thirandhu" in raaga > > Shanmuga priya..If you listen > > to that it will be exactly like a replica of > > "Vilayada idhu nerama" - a > > famous carnatic song made popular my Maharajapuram > > Santhaanam...I did not > > see any body claiming it to be a copied stuff...ALL > > we need it is a little > > bit of common sense and understanding about > > classical music and its > > adaptation..Certain raagas can be improvised and > > certain cannot be and hence > > one has to play it as per the strictures. > > > > Hope this clarifies.. > > > > regards, > > Karthik > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pavana Kumar CM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:07 AM > > Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy > > of Sowkkiyama song!!! > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > This song is a direct lift by ARR from some > > > popular carnatic tamil song. I can't remember the > > > song. Both are in Mandu raaga... Actually his > > > classical numbers have a lot of inspiration from > > > popular carnatic keerthanas. > > > > > > The song goes like "...mayilaada kanden... " > > It > > > is so evident especially when you hear the 1st > > > charanam... If somebody can give the name of the > > song > > > it will be helpful > > > > > > Rgds, > > > Pavana Kumar C.M > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. > Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. > > Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com > To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pKxVKC/UOnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
