On 10/18/2009 6:27 AM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote:

> Don't think Slumdog Millionaire was about the money 

Right.

> - it was a low
> budget movie. It's really just down to luck of the draw... the problem
> is the attachment of the Boss to a movie before it is made helps to
> raise finance. How can the Boss know how the film will turn out after
> it's been completed. ?

That is where the "auditor's finger" is needed. he needs to evolve some ways to 
figure that out.

In any case, if the first film can't be predicted, doing a second film for 
Anthony D'souza or Ketan Mehta (Mangal Pandey) would be a totally wrong 
decision.

--
Rawat

> --- In [email protected], Vinayakam Murugan <mvinaya...@...> wrote:
>> Check out Ha Reham and Hashar Bashar from Aamir,
>>
>> Amit Trivedi is a very promising MD
>>
>> On 10/17/09, V S Rawat <vsra...@...> wrote:
>>> On 10/17/2009 1:17 PM India Time, _balajirajagopal_ wrote:
>>>
>>>> My personal view is that this is a very "convenient" and unfair
>>>> comment to make. Comeon, how many of you sincerely thought that JTYJN
>>>> would be a monster hit or that Delhi 6 would be disaster - and that
>>>> too when the movie was being made?
>>> Can't say about JTYJN. It came out of the blue, no information at all and
>>> then music released just like that, along with Ada, soon followed by the
>>> movie, so I couldn't get any opinion really made entangled in all that.
>>>
>>> but, I didn't expect D6 to flop at all. I had thought it would follow RDB
>>> success of ROP Mehra, alongwith even more allrounder music by our man in D6
>>> than was in RDB. The OP saying that D6 was to be a flop couldn't be correct.
>>> everybody expected it to be a big hit.
>>>
>>>> It is all a question of how a
>>>> director visualises the movie, storyline etc when he talks to ARR.
>>>> ARR must obviously have had some faith in the
>>>> Director/storyline/Producer when he signed those movies. He cannot be
>>>> faulted that they failed.
>>> Yaar, when 1-2 movies flop, it could be a change, but when more than half
>>> the movies ARR is doing are flopping on box office, there has to be some
>>> problem in selection.
>>>
>>> Of course, ARR is not responsible for the movies going flop, he always
>>> giving great music. But, one should sense that there is something wrong in
>>> his selection of movies.
>>>
>>>> Yes...one thing that ARR could look at is
>>>> signing the big banners. Having said that even a Yashraj films had a
>>>> series of bloopers last year. So, what does he do? He cannot be
>>>> insisting that Aamir khan signs him for every film or that Shankar or
>>>> Mani Rathinam make a movie every 6 months (And yes...pls do not
>>>> forget that notwithstanding of its excellent music, Dil Se, Thiruda
>>>> Thiruda or even Iruvar were big flops!!
>>> I don't know about Tamil versions of Thiruda Thiruda or Iruvar, but Dil Se
>>> getting flop didn't harm anybody really. :-) ha ha. Everybody associated
>>> with the film gained a lot of critical and public acclaim for it.
>>>
>>> Similarly, for Hindi Yuva, it had so much expectations that local cinema
>>> halls here have even increased the rates for all classes just for this movie
>>> as they said that movie was sold to them at much high cost. Not just
>>> multiplex, but even the single screen traditional theatres. And it was the
>>> first time in my entire life that I had seen these theatres increasing rates
>>> just for one movie. And Yuva no way did even slightly near that expectation
>>> on box office.
>>>
>>> A well made movie flopping on box office hurts only those Ronnie Screwala
>>> financers who put moolah in the movie. They don't get returns on investment
>>> whereas everybody else gains from such a movie. We still want ARR to work
>>> with Deepa Mehta even though none of her films is a superhit.
>>>
>>> Still, films flopping on account of being badly made (like Mangal Pandey or
>>> Blue) is what hurts them. And such movies hurt everybody related with the
>>> film, even the MD or background people. That is where the choice of
>>> selection comes - Whether the people associated with the movie were wrong in
>>> deciding to do it.
>>>
>>> D6 could be an exception that it was a badly executed movie and so it
>>> flopped, but we would still like to see ARR pairing with ROP Mehra.
>>>
>>>> My request - Pls do a movie with Karan Johar, Aditya Chopra and
>>>> Farhan Akhtar. If not nothing else, at least the chances of the movie
>>>> being a hit is higher than for the other directors!!!
>>> yes, these directors have shown a consistent music sense in their movies, so
>>> they should be given some consideration even though some of their movies
>>> don't do well on box office or even music didn't do well.
>>>
>>> What happens in the background dealings is not get known, but one thing that
>>> had come out was ARR refusing Om Shanti Om solely because ARR wanted
>>> percentage of sales that SRK didn't agree. Well, OSO become a super hit, so
>>> ARR not doing it came out as a wrong decision. And why at all he didn't do
>>> it? because of money. So sad. ARR is not known for such small things like
>>> money, so he should not refuse such promising films like OSO if he doesn't
>>> get money, and should not do disasters like blue just because he got lots of
>>> money. that's where his decision comes, and such incidences show that his
>>> decisions have not always been right.
>>>
>>>> Cheers, Balaji
>>> --
>>> Rawat
>>>
>>>> --- In [email protected], mohammed sajin <mnsajin@>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Blue the last disaster in Boss's account!
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very much painful to see all these superior works gone ruin.
>>>>> How many time this happens!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Except with some established directors(or Ameer Khan), AR movies
>>>>> could not manage success in both quality-wise and in box-office.
>>>>>
>>>>> Certainly there is lot of new talented directors in both Hindi and
>>>>> Tamil. Unfortunately ARR would not opt them, or viceversa.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't want anymore movies like BLUE, Yuvvraaj, Sakkarakatti,
>>>>> ATM,Kangalal Kaidhu Sei, E20 U18, Godfather, Parasuraam, Anbe
>>>>> aaruyire, SOK, etc etc
>>>
>> --
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>
>> Warm Regards
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Vinayak
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/
>>
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