That answer below is not in line with how I understand licensing to work.  

In the ITSM apps the license really exists to modify existing records.  
Assuming you are in Submitter Locked mode - which I think the vast majority of 
people are - a user logging in and having workflow create new records in some 
kind of log should not take a license token.  

Also, if you can change that user to read license, Incident Viewer and the log 
in with no problems are they still writing to log files? If so then obviously 
the floating user didn't need to take a token.  And if not then the floating 
user doesn't need to write to logs either.

I would take this up with BMC.  It seems to be in conflict with everything I've 
ever heard about how/when floating tokens are actually taken.

William Rentfrow
wrentf...@stratacominc.com
Office: 715-204-3061 or 701-232-5697x25
Cell: 715-498-5056

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lippincott, Levi (OMA-GIS)
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 1:05 PM
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Subject: Re: Serious flaw in BMC Remedy Licensing

Ryan,

We ran into this issue too and when we spoke to BMC about this they said this 
was operating as designed because when someone first logs into the system and 
views the data it writes to some logs and therefore needs a write license.

Our user base that was experiencing this issue though did not live in the 
system all day so we just had to train them when they closed the system to 
actually hit the Logout link so they freed that license up immediately for 
others. 

Levi Lippincott / Remedy Administrator

+1 402 561 7014 office
+1 402 321 5421 mobile
levi.lippinc...@interpublic.com

Interpublic Group  6825 Pine Street, Omaha, NE 68106

"Talent is a Gift; But Character is a Choice." -Matt Grotewold-

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Serious flaw in BMC Remedy Licensing

Personaly I don't see why you could not post this on bmc community but ok :) I 
am no license expert so well, did you contact bmc support or someone from BMC 
about it?
In which version are you?

Mobilis in Mobile.

> Le 30 oct. 2015 à 18:50, Ryan Nicosia <ryan.nicosia....@socom.mil> a écrit :
> 
> Didn't think BMC wanted me to post this on their communities but we have 
> found what I would consider a serious flaw in the way that BMC counts a 
> license against a user.
> 
> Here is the scenario:
> 
> User A has been giving a FLOATING license for Incident.   User A has his IT 
> home page configured as overview console to display all INC's, CR's, and 
> TASKS assigned to his group.
> 
> User A's support group has NO incidents assigned to it.
> 
> User A logs into Remedy and immediately shows up in license review as 
> consuming a "write" license (NOT A READ LICENSE) for Incident.
> 
> User A refreshes his overview console every half hour.   Since the "write" 
> license doesn't switch back over to "read" for 15 minutes, he is virtually 
> consuming a "write" license for Incident all day long.
> 
> And this is the really stupid part.  He has never even opened an Incident.
> 
> 
> What we have found through our use of the RRR License tool is that some of 
> our top "Incident License" users are people who have NEVER even opened an 
> Incident.   We've taken the list of people who (according to BMC) have 
> consumed an Incident "write" license and searched for their login ID in the 
> HPD audit log and work log forms.   To our amazement, over 1/4 of them aren't 
> in there.
> 
> So, this begs the question.  Has anybody else figured this out?  If so, does 
> it bother you as much as it bothers us that a user who has been given an 
> Incident User (FLOAT) license and NEVER uses it, can still cost your 
> organization money in license fees?
> 
> I know we can adjust our licenses and give out Incident viewer but it seems 
> like an administrative nightmare to figure out who should get what when the 
> real answer would be for the tool to do a better job of counting who is 
> really using a license.
> 
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