Hi,

In other words it actually points to the .ARM file for mapping.

So how is this structured, do you get a set of config/mapping files for each 
supported version transition?

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April 24, 2017 10:01 AM, "Jarl Grøneng"  wrote:

** 
Hi 
This is a DDM instruction file, and you can see that the field mapping using an 
import-tool format. 
PASS_QUALIFICATION
Regards, 
Jarl  
2017-04-20 14:48 GMT+02:00 Misi Mladoniczky :

 **
Hi,

So RRR|Chive works in a similar way, where matching ids are the default, 
regardless if it is a custom field or not. Fields can then be mapped/skipped 
specifically.

It sounds like a simple thing to generate rrrchive-config-files based on the 
mapping-files from DDM!? Any chanse of supplying me with a few DDM-config-files 
to allow me to check how much work it would take?

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2011)

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April 20, 2017 1:49 PM, "JD Hood"  wrote:

**As for custom fields, the in the 7.x version, the default DDM mapping was 
based on matching field IDs, unless a different mapping was specified. So as 
long as custom fields had the same field ID between the systems, the data would 
migrate correctly.

So, with DDM migrating between two forms, it would map based on matching field 
IDs for all fields that were not mapped specifically. So if you looked at the 
mappings for the specifically mapped fields, it only listed the odd-ball fields 
that needed to be mapped because their ID's differed (presumably due to version 
changes). As long as custom fields had the same field ID between the systems 
(or if you manually edited the DDM mapping to include the custom fields if the 
ID's differed), the data would migrate correctly.
Biggest issue I had with DDM is that it was slow, Slow, SLOOOOOOOW. 
Thanks, 
-JDHood 
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Vinod Gaidhani  wrote:
 ** 
Thanks Misi, seems to be good and overcomes shortcomings of DDM.

Vinod.  
On 20-Apr-2017, at 2:30 PM, Misi Mladoniczky  wrote: 
**
Hi,

One big difference between DDM and RRR|Chive is that DDM just finds all records 
after the date/time you specify and transfer these records.

RRR|Chive will pull all recordids and modify-dates from both system and then do 
transfer/delete as appropriate. No need to specify a date.

Because of this it is easy to use to restore a system after, for example, 
testing.

I have been playing with the idea of using the DDM mapping files in RRR|Chive, 
but have not come around to doing this. So you are pretty much on your own and 
need to do the mapping yourself.

I am not 100% sure about this, but I think that DDM will not copy data on 
custom fields you have added yourself automatically.

I have another tool I like to use when planning migrations to new application 
versions, and this is RRR|DefFieldDiff that will give you an excel sheet of all 
changed data fields. This makes it easy to find differences and plan your data 
massaging.

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2011)

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April 19, 2017 2:39 PM, "Murnane, Phil"  wrote:
        We've used DDM and RRR|Chive successfully on various projects. Misi's 
tool is scriptable and very fast compared to DDM. DDM can schedule code and 
data migrations. Generally both require the Last-Modified date/time field to be 
accurate. Overall, I'd personally recommend RRR|Chive. 
HTH, 

        --Phil  
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  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)  on behalf of Nicosia, 
Ryan J. CTR USSOCOM HQ 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG (mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG)
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade
I have to disagree. We used DDM with great success but it does require admin 
freeze on all deletion activities of your production environment. That said, 
there are ways to get around that as well but purging the form in question on 
your target server and telling DDM to just pull everything over.

Once you get to the point where you are running DDM every few days, the errors 
are easy to identify and clean up and you can re-run a specific package as 
needed.

Ryan

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Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:50 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG (mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG)
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: need input about data migration after Upgrade

Hi Amit,

Agree with Vinod, you may want to look at alternate solution considering you 
are looking at migrating and cleaning your data. You will want to migrate over 
foundation, configuration and transactional data onto ITSM 9.x . This is an 
ideal time to clean up data, remapping Prod cats and Op Cats etc. and 
potentially archive some of the tickets that you no longer need.

We use our Customer Move Tool (more info [CAUTION]  
http://www.alderstone.com/cmt (http://www.alderstone.com/cmt)) for the 
migration from previous ITSM versions to the latest, as we can migrate all 
modules data or a reduced set (including transformation and cleaning of data), 
depending on your requirements. In general we've been able to move entire data 
set within a day ensuring a smooth migration. Please let me know if you would 
like to talk about this in more detail or have any specific questions.

Regards,
Mohamed

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