No, the issue is that the installer updates the binaries and then cannot start 
the server and gives up. I also feel like giving up after the BMC support 
cannot tell us what their product does.

Thomas

> On 10. Oct 2017, at 14:08, Saji Philip <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> **
> Is this an upgrade in place?  Does the installer hang (never finishes and no 
> errors).  We had a similar issue and the 9..x would fail ARS because we had a 
> custom AL guide and it would error out on tha arcontainer table.  Taking a 
> backup and deleting this AL guide allowed ARS to install.  Then we had 
> problems with Atrium in that it didn't like our overlay on the BMC.Elements 
> form.  But that would error out.  We just deleted the overlay.  But the 
> weirdest part is that ITSM would hang in installation.  Putting the server to 
> Allow queries to be true, even though the prechecker said otherwise, allowed 
> the ITSM to go through...
> 
> 8.1.02 going to 9.1.03
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017, 6:27 AM Thomas Miskiewicz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> **
>> Satya,
>> 
>> the environment is NOT a copy or clone of another environment. The 
>> servgrp... Tables don’t exist.
>> 
>> I did a clean start with deleting logs etc few times already. Nothing new. 
>> Same stuff in the logs.
>> 
>> I would appreciate if you could review my armonitor.conf and 
>> ARSystemInstalledConfiguration.xml Maybe you see something’s I don’t.
>> 
>> Apart from that I have no idea what else I can do. Even worse neither does 
>> BMC!
>> 
>> They‘ve been discussing the matter internally since a couple of days but 
>> didn’t approach us with a single suggestion.
>> 
>> When this happens (and this is how BMC support in India works 99.9% of 
>> time), they usually wait two weeks and send me a question whether the 
>> problem still persists. How ridiculous is that!
>> 
>> 
>> Thomas
>> 
>>> On 6. Oct 2017, at 20:05, Satya Gandhi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> **
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>> 
>>> A dbVersion value of 54 indicates that the database has been upgraded
>>> 
>>> I also see that there is alternating information about the ARServer  being  
>>> secondary serher AT least when it is validating FTS ports
>>> 
>>> If the database was a copy from another environment which was part of a 
>>> server group,  then perform the flowing steps
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Remove the old arerror log and armonitor log  files  and restart the 
>>> arsystem services. If the reserves starts successfully the  perform the 
>>> following steps
>>> 
>>> Delete records from table servgrp_board and servgrp_resources
>>> 
>>> Change db version value to  what is currently on prevdbversion column and 
>>> remove the value from prevdbversion
>>> 
>>> On the AR config file, set multiple ar servers to false and server group 
>>> member to false. Also ensure that there are no references for secondary 
>>> server for any plugins or any features. Comment those lines out, if you 
>>> find any
>>> 
>>> Remove any files from the temp directory to have  clean set of install log 
>>> files
>>> 
>>> Ensure that the arsystem server licenses are valid and you are able to 
>>> create new records in any for that already have more than  2000 entries 
>>> 
>>>  Also set the min and max values for private queues,  fast and list threads 
>>> to the current and recommended maximum value for your infrastructure
>>> 
>>> Now run the installer and let us know how it goes
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Satya Gandhi
>>> 
>>>> On 6 Oct 2017 6:29 pm, "Thomas Miskiewicz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> **
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> the dbVersion is 54.
>>>> 
>>>> Server is not part of the server group, still the stupid installer says: 
>>>> server is NOT server group member, server IS server group member, server 
>>>> is NOT server group member … why?
>>>> 
>>>> (Oct 06 2017 02:29:12.122 PM 
>>>> +0200),CONFIG,com.bmc.install.task.InstallationPropertiesHelper,
>>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[SET PROPERTY 
>>>> BMC_AR_SERVER_GROUP_MEMBER],Detail=[F]}
>>>> 
>>>> [className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>>  Num-Preload-Schema-Segments, , 25, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]], 
>>>> [className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>>  Num-Preload-Threads, , 10, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]], 
>>>> [className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>>  Application-Enable, F, T, setCFGentry]], 
>>>> [className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>>  Large-Result-Logging-Threshold, , 1000000, setCFGentry]], 
>>>> [className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>>  Max-Log-History, , 8, setCFGentry]], 
>>>> [className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>>  Max-Log-File-Size, , 134217728, setCFGentry]]]], [level=Database Only 
>>>> Server Group 
>>>> Configuration,commands=[[className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>>  Server-Group-Member, , F, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]]]], [level=AR Server 
>>>> Group 
>>>> Configuration,commands=[[className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>>  Server-Group-Member, , T, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]]]], [level=Configure 
>>>> JMX,commands=[[className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>>  Jmx-port, , 61500, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]]]], [level=Configure 
>>>> JMS,commands=[[className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>>  Default-messaging-port, , 61617, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]]]], [level=AR 
>>>> Server Atrium SSO Configurati
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (Oct 06 2017 02:47:07.676 PM 
>>>> +0200),INFO,com.bmc.smbu.install.common.rule.engine.StageGroup,
>>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Skipping execution of 
>>>> stage],Detail=[[level=Database Only Server Group 
>>>> Configuration,commands=[[className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>>  Server-Group-Member, , F, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]]]]]}
>>>> (Oct 06 2017 02:47:07.676 PM 
>>>> +0200),INFO,com.bmc.smbu.install.common.rule.engine.Stage,
>>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Executing stage [level=AR Server Group 
>>>> Configuration,commands=[[className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>>  Server-Group-Member, , T, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]]]]]}
>>>> (Oct 06 2017 02:47:07.676 PM 
>>>> +0200),INFO,com.bmc.smbu.install.common.rule.engine.extension.ExtensionCommand,
>>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Executing extension Command]}
>>>> 
>>>> etc. 
>>>> 
>>>> arsystem_install_log.txt attached
>>>> 
>>>> ARSystemInstalledConfiguration.xml didn’t exist but it was created after 
>>>> the first failed installation. In there is say, server is NOT server group 
>>>> member. So does ar.conf
>>>> 
>>>> I’m on Solaris in this case.
>>>> 
>>>> arerror.log has a few hundreds entries complaining that he couldn’t import 
>>>> forms:
>>>> 
>>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:28.836 2017 Import failed for AR System Administration: 
>>>> Add Or Remove Licenses: 
>>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:28.953 2017 Import failed for AR System Administration: 
>>>> Display Form To Collect User Decisions: 
>>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:29.225 2017 Import failed for AR System License: Save 
>>>> Produse Attachment: 
>>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:29.530 2017 Import failed for AR System Licenses Console: 
>>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:29.688 2017 Import failed for AR System: Generate License 
>>>> Usage Report: 
>>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:29.986 2017 Import failed for AR System Licenses Audit: 
>>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:30.229 2017 Error updating audit shadow form AR System 
>>>> Licenses Audit
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thomas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ 
>>>> **
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6. Oct 2017, at 19:13, Satya Gandhi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> **
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Check the record in control table from a db utility
>>>>> 
>>>>> Select * from control
>>>>> 
>>>>> The value in dbVersion column  should be 54 and if that's not the case, 
>>>>> the database has not been upgraded to 9.1.03.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the AR Server binaries has been upgraded but not the database, t
>>>>> It should given an error Bout column useShaH (or something similar). This 
>>>>> column is created only when the database has also been upgraded
>>>>> 
>>>>> Was the server part of  server group? If yes, can you please check if the 
>>>>> server was considered a secondary server and hence updates only the 
>>>>> binaries and not the database. This can be found on the 
>>>>> systeminstalledconfiguration.xml file
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you are running the server on Windows, check the productregistry.xml 
>>>>> to find the install and upgrade entries for product BMC Remedy action 
>>>>> request system server
>>>>> 
>>>>> I cannot open the log files as I am on my mobile right now. Are there any 
>>>>> glaring errors on arsystem install logs?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Satya Gandhi
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2017 18:06, "Grooms, Frederick W" <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Is there anything in the arDebug.log or arError.log?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Miskiewicz
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 11:24 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Second try --> Upgrade 8.1.00 to 9.1.03 Failed
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> at the moment I do ARS upgrades from 7.6.4, 8.1.00 and higher to 9.1.03 
>>>>>> for various customers. OS: Linux and Solaris.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not a single system that just worked! I'm really not sure how to move to 
>>>>>> production under this circumstances...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What's even worse: the BMC support in India has zero clue and just 
>>>>>> keeping us busy with their ideas and requests. In all the month not a 
>>>>>> single hint with substance! BTW, talked to some partners and customers 
>>>>>> which I do not work for - same issues! But BMC support always pretends 
>>>>>> they never heard of any issues.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The logs of my recent 
>>>>>> installation:https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/miskiewicz/arslist/INC112333.tar.gz
>>>>>>  Maybe one of you has an idea what is going on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Basically the job went like this:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Clean and working 8.1.00 installation.
>>>>>> 2. Installer 9.1.03 runs.
>>>>>> 3. Installer 9.1.03 cannot start the server it installed and gives up.
>>>>>> 4. Result: A messed up ARS 9.1.03 installation that doesn't start, but 
>>>>>> is trying to do a gazzilion of inserts into various tables and is 
>>>>>> violating the unique index at the same time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I restored and started from scratch. Same result. Not sure what to do. 
>>>>>> The only comfort is BMC doesn't know either. I feel less stupid.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>> 
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