I didn’t try and I won’t. I have 24 servers to upgrade!!!

> On 10. Oct 2017, at 16:51, Brian Pancia <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> **
> Have you tried to upgrade one sp/version at a time instead of going directly 
> to 9.1.03.  I've done countless upgrades and never had a lot of luck with 
> going from one version (ie 8.x to 9.x).  In that case I've always did a clean 
> install and migrate data.  RRRChive does an excellent job at moving data.  
> I've seen installers go through stating successful only to find out things 
> were missing on the back end.  I would recommend trying an incremental 
> upgrade first and if you're spinning your tires do a clean install and 
> migrate data.  It might be quicker then troubleshooting the install.
> 
> Brian
> 
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Thomas Miskiewicz 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 8:14:40 AM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Second try --> Upgrade 8.1.00 to 9.1.03 Failed
>  
> **
> No, the issue is that the installer updates the binaries and then cannot 
> start the server and gives up. I also feel like giving up after the BMC 
> support cannot tell us what their product does.
> 
> Thomas
> 
> On 10. Oct 2017, at 14:08, Saji Philip <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> **
>> Is this an upgrade in place?  Does the installer hang (never finishes and no 
>> errors).  We had a similar issue and the 9..x would fail ARS because we had 
>> a custom AL guide and it would error out on tha arcontainer table.  Taking a 
>> backup and deleting this AL guide allowed ARS to install.  Then we had 
>> problems with Atrium in that it didn't like our overlay on the BMC.Elements 
>> form.  But that would error out.  We just deleted the overlay.  But the 
>> weirdest part is that ITSM would hang in installation.  Putting the server 
>> to Allow queries to be true, even though the prechecker said otherwise, 
>> allowed the ITSM to go through...
>> 8.1.02 going to 9.1.03
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017, 6:27 AM Thomas Miskiewicz <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> **
>> Satya,
>> 
>> the environment is NOT a copy or clone of another environment. The 
>> servgrp... Tables don’t exist.
>> 
>> I did a clean start with deleting logs etc few times already. Nothing new. 
>> Same stuff in the logs.
>> 
>> I would appreciate if you could review my armonitor.conf and 
>> ARSystemInstalledConfiguration.xml Maybe you see something’s I don’t.
>> 
>> Apart from that I have no idea what else I can do. Even worse neither does 
>> BMC!
>> 
>> They‘ve been discussing the matter internally since a couple of days but 
>> didn’t approach us with a single suggestion.
>> 
>> When this happens (and this is how BMC support in India works 99.9% of 
>> time), they usually wait two weeks and send me a question whether the 
>> problem still persists. How ridiculous is that!
>> 
>> 
>> Thomas
>> 
>> On 6. Oct 2017, at 20:05, Satya Gandhi <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> **
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>> 
>>> A dbVersion value of 54 indicates that the database has been upgraded
>>> 
>>> I also see that there is alternating information about the ARServer  being  
>>> secondary serher AT least when it is validating FTS ports
>>> 
>>> If the database was a copy from another environment which was part of a 
>>> server group,  then perform the flowing steps
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Remove the old arerror log and armonitor log  files  and restart the 
>>> arsystem services. If the reserves starts successfully the  perform the 
>>> following steps
>>> 
>>> Delete records from table servgrp_board and servgrp_resources
>>> 
>>> Change db version value to  what is currently on prevdbversion column and 
>>> remove the value from prevdbversion
>>> 
>>> On the AR config file, set multiple ar servers to false and server group 
>>> member to false. Also ensure that there are no references for secondary 
>>> server for any plugins or any features. Comment those lines out, if you 
>>> find any
>>> 
>>> Remove any files from the temp directory to have  clean set of install log 
>>> files
>>> 
>>> Ensure that the arsystem server licenses are valid and you are able to 
>>> create new records in any for that already have more than  2000 entries 
>>> 
>>>  Also set the min and max values for private queues,  fast and list threads 
>>> to the current and recommended maximum value for your infrastructure
>>> 
>>> Now run the installer and let us know how it goes
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Satya Gandhi
>>> 
>>> On 6 Oct 2017 6:29 pm, "Thomas Miskiewicz" <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> **
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> the dbVersion is 54.
>>> 
>>> Server is not part of the server group, still the stupid installer says: 
>>> server is NOT server group member, server IS server group member, server is 
>>> NOT server group member … why?
>>> 
>>> (Oct 06 2017 02:29:12.122 PM 
>>> +0200),CONFIG,com.bmc.install.task.InstallationPropertiesHelper,
>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[SET PROPERTY 
>>> BMC_AR_SERVER_GROUP_MEMBER],Detail=[F]}
>>> 
>>> [className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>  Num-Preload-Schema-Segments, , 25, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]], 
>>> [className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>  Num-Preload-Threads, , 10, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]], 
>>> [className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>  Application-Enable, F, T, setCFGentry]], 
>>> [className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>  Large-Result-Logging-Threshold, , 1000000, setCFGentry]], 
>>> [className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>  Max-Log-History, , 8, setCFGentry]], 
>>> [className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>  Max-Log-File-Size, , 134217728, setCFGentry]]]], [level=Database Only 
>>> Server Group 
>>> Configuration,commands=[[className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>  Server-Group-Member, , F, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]]]], [level=AR Server 
>>> Group 
>>> Configuration,commands=[[className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>  Server-Group-Member, , T, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]]]], [level=Configure 
>>> JMX,commands=[[className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>  Jmx-port, , 61500, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]]]], [level=Configure 
>>> JMS,commands=[[className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>  Default-messaging-port, , 61617, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]]]], [level=AR 
>>> Server Atrium SSO Configurati
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Oct 06 2017 02:47:07.676 PM 
>>> +0200),INFO,com.bmc.smbu.install.common.rule.engine.StageGroup,
>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Skipping execution of 
>>> stage],Detail=[[level=Database Only Server Group 
>>> Configuration,commands=[[className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>  Server-Group-Member, , F, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]]]]]}
>>> (Oct 06 2017 02:47:07.676 PM 
>>> +0200),INFO,com.bmc.smbu.install.common.rule.engine.Stage,
>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Executing stage [level=AR Server Group 
>>> Configuration,commands=[[className=com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.platforms.arsystemservers.task.ARServerUpdateConfigurationEntry,arguments=[/ESP/usr/ar/ARSE1/conf/ar.conf,
>>>  Server-Group-Member, , T, searchKEYandREPLACEvalue]]]]]}
>>> (Oct 06 2017 02:47:07.676 PM 
>>> +0200),INFO,com.bmc.smbu.install.common.rule.engine.extension.ExtensionCommand,
>>>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Executing extension Command]}
>>> 
>>> etc. 
>>> 
>>> arsystem_install_log.txt attached
>>> 
>>> ARSystemInstalledConfiguration.xml didn’t exist but it was created after 
>>> the first failed installation. In there is say, server is NOT server group 
>>> member. So does ar.conf
>>> 
>>> I’m on Solaris in this case.
>>> 
>>> arerror.log has a few hundreds entries complaining that he couldn’t import 
>>> forms:
>>> 
>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:28.836 2017 Import failed for AR System Administration: Add 
>>> Or Remove Licenses: 
>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:28.953 2017 Import failed for AR System Administration: 
>>> Display Form To Collect User Decisions: 
>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:29.225 2017 Import failed for AR System License: Save 
>>> Produse Attachment: 
>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:29.530 2017 Import failed for AR System Licenses Console: 
>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:29.688 2017 Import failed for AR System: Generate License 
>>> Usage Report: 
>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:29.986 2017 Import failed for AR System Licenses Audit: 
>>> Fr Okt 06 15:26:30.229 2017 Error updating audit shadow form AR System 
>>> Licenses Audit
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thomas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 6. Oct 2017, at 19:13, Satya Gandhi <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> **
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Check the record in control table from a db utility
>>>> 
>>>> Select * from control
>>>> 
>>>> The value in dbVersion column  should be 54 and if that's not the case, 
>>>> the database has not been upgraded to 9.1.03.  
>>>> 
>>>> If the AR Server binaries has been upgraded but not the database, t
>>>> It should given an error Bout column useShaH (or something similar). This 
>>>> column is created only when the database has also been upgraded
>>>> 
>>>> Was the server part of  server group? If yes, can you please check if the 
>>>> server was considered a secondary server and hence updates only the 
>>>> binaries and not the database. This can be found on the 
>>>> systeminstalledconfiguration.xml file
>>>> 
>>>> If you are running the server on Windows, check the productregistry.xml to 
>>>> find the install and upgrade entries for product BMC Remedy action request 
>>>> system server
>>>> 
>>>> I cannot open the log files as I am on my mobile right now. Are there any 
>>>> glaring errors on arsystem install logs?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Satya Gandhi
>>>> 
>>>> On 6 Oct 2017 18:06, "Grooms, Frederick W" <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> Is there anything in the arDebug.log or arError.log?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Thomas Miskiewicz
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 11:24 AM
>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Second try --> Upgrade 8.1.00 to 9.1.03 Failed
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>> 
>>>> at the moment I do ARS upgrades from 7.6.4, 8.1.00 and higher to 9.1.03 
>>>> for various customers. OS: Linux and Solaris.
>>>> 
>>>> Not a single system that just worked! I'm really not sure how to move to 
>>>> production under this circumstances...
>>>> 
>>>> What's even worse: the BMC support in India has zero clue and just keeping 
>>>> us busy with their ideas and requests. In all the month not a single hint 
>>>> with substance! BTW, talked to some partners and customers which I do not 
>>>> work for - same issues! But BMC support always pretends they never heard 
>>>> of any issues.
>>>> 
>>>> The logs of my recent 
>>>> installation:https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/miskiewicz/arslist/INC112333.tar.gz
>>>>  
>>>> <https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/miskiewicz/arslist/INC112333.tar.gz>
>>>>  Maybe one of you has an idea what is going on.
>>>> 
>>>> Basically the job went like this:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Clean and working 8.1.00 installation.
>>>> 2. Installer 9.1.03 runs.
>>>> 3. Installer 9.1.03 cannot start the server it installed and gives up.
>>>> 4. Result: A messed up ARS 9.1.03 installation that doesn't start, but is 
>>>> trying to do a gazzilion of inserts into various tables and is violating 
>>>> the unique index at the same time.
>>>> 
>>>> I restored and started from scratch. Same result. Not sure what to do. The 
>>>> only comfort is BMC doesn't know either. I feel less stupid.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thomas
>>>> 
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