Thanks Misi

If it is the company that I believe it is,  then Sriram is a custom shop
with on site servers.  No ITSM.

They switched to SNOW which is why the decommissioning question.

Dave

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 5:59 AM Misi Mladoniczky <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The other key takeaway from Peter Adams was that "perpetual licenses"
> would allow you to use the system even after you stop paying support. This
> situation should be true for most sites if you are not using Remedy On
> Demand/Helix.
>
> It will of course prevent you from getting updates and patches, but if you
> put everything on a virtual machine/cloud server, there is no reason to
> fear a sudden hardware failure.
>
> The important thing is to be able to use your license keys for any
> replacement machine, as these will not be re-generated for you by BMC
> Support.
>
> So check with your sales rep if you have perpetual licenses.
>
> Another note on the Demo licensed (unlicensed) server is that while it
> will technically give you read access to the data (regardless of the number
> of records), it might not be something you would be allowed to use unless
> it is for Demo purposes.
>
> Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>
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>
>
>
>
> November 28, 2018 10:22 AM, "Carl Wilson" <[email protected]
> <%22carl%20wilson%22%20%[email protected]%3E>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I believe Peter Adams hit the nail on the head here, you need to check
> with your BMC representative as Peter mentions not all pricing plans allow
> Read only access.
>
> I came across this same dilemma for a new client this year where the EULA
> changed where Read only licencing was not permitted.
>
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> *Carl Wilson*
>
> *From:* ARSList <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Theo Fondse
> *Sent:* 27 November 2018 21:17
> *To:* 'ARSList' <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* RE: BMC Remedy Decommissioning Process
>
> At minimum, you can back up the Remedy database and scrap the entire
> system after verifying the last backup.
>
> You can always access the data directly from the restored DB if needs be.
>
> There should not be any issue if you retain the system as-is and make it
> “read-only” in whatever way you choose.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Theo Fondse
>
> *From:* ARSList [mailto:[email protected]
> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Dave Shellman
> *Sent:* Monday, 26 November, 2018 02:35 PM
> *To:* ARSList <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: BMC Remedy Decommissioning Process
>
> Good day Sriram
>
> You should be able to access the data using read licenses. Especially
> since no changes will be made.
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 5:50 AM sriram pm <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Misi,
>
> We have already moved to a different ITSM Tool. The licensing completes by
> Dec 2018 and we have already stopped using the tool. We want only the
> read-only archival data as per the company data retention policy. We would
> remove all the paid licenses and hold only the demo license for retrieving
> the archived data. I remember when I worked for other companies they used
> to have the Remedy Server running in a read only mode with the demo license
> in place for pulling archived data.
>
> Just wanted to confirm/understand whether this policy with BMC is still
> valid or not.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sriram.
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 2:30 PM Misi Mladoniczky <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I thought that you might even continue to use the licenses you have on
> your server and just stop paying support. You will then not be able to get
> upgrades, support or new license keys if you need to reinstall.
>
> Another solution is to dump out the data to ARX-files and convert these to
> HTML-pages where you can then review data there if you need to.
>
> I have created a set of free tools to accomplish exactly this task:
> - RRR|Chive to dump data to ARX-files: https://rrr.se/cgi/index?pg=chive
> - RRR|ArxToHtml to convert the ARX-files and Form Definitions to crude
> HTML-pages that you store on a file share:
> https://rrr.se/cgi/tools/main?tool=rrrArxToHTML
>
> Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>
> Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12/13)
> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs
> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se
>
>
>
>
> November 26, 2018 8:33 AM, "sriram pm" <[email protected]
> <%22sriram%20pm%22%20%[email protected]%3E>> wrote:
>
> Hi Experts,
>
> Query regarding BMC Remedy Decommissioning. As part of the data retention
> policy we need to retain the data. In my previous organizations they used
> to remove the all the paid licenses from remedy and server will run with
> the standard demo licenses. This demo login would be used to pull data from
> remedy based on requirements from the users.
>
> Just wanted to confirm whether this decommissioning process is still
> applicable. If not please let me know the current process.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Sriram.
>
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