I clarified my position--I agree 100% with Pat's claim that all change costs money. I think I probably also agree with everything else he said, but I don't feel like re-reading it all.
All of that is not the point, and I think you realize that. You're simply trying to shift the burden of proof onto the skeptic by saying, "You said this or that, so now the monkey is on your back." -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Parrish Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: OT -- Sort Of: Computerworld reports on ITIL No Norm, re-read your post. It begins: 100% correct. Not partially correct, not I agree with you that change costs money Your statement is "100% correct". Which means you back his entire post. Within that post Patrick makes the statements that I allude to below. So again, you have gone beyond skepticism to stating fact and I would like for you to produce the same documentation/case studies as you implore others to provide. Scott Parrish IT Prophets, LLC (770) 653-5203 http://www.itprophets.com -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: OT -- Sort Of: Computerworld reports on ITIL Woah! Hold the phone! You've been fair in quoting me up until this point. > My point is, and I'll state it again, I believe it is irresponsible for people to make statements about something, such as ITIL in this instance, that they have no proof of. Norm stated that he thought Patrick's comments were 100% correct. Patrick's comments were that 1. ITIL doesn't save money 2. ITIL doesn't save time 3. ITIL doesn't save energy 4. ITL doesn't make sense My exact word-for-word statement was this: "And Pat is right--all change costs money at some point in the change process." ________________________________________________________________________ ____ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ________________________________________________________________________ _______ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
