Ray,

I am not challenging or questioning any of those ideas or
perspectives. (Mostly because I think you are right on the mark.)

However... Can you indicate any preferred protocols that should be
supported by BMC for E-Mail with ARS? Have you already submitted RFE
(Request for Enhancements) for support of those protocols?

( Just trying to light a candle, not a religious war over
platforms/standards/security. :) )

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

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On Jan 30, 2008 1:22 PM, Ray Gellenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
>
> Folks, remember that a big sector of Remedy useage is Uncle Sam, both govt
> and military.
>
> I can only speak for our project in that both POP3 and IMAP4 are forbidden
> by security.  This makes like really rough for someone operating on Solaris
> as MBOX becomes your only protocol left for incoming email (MAPI is
> Exchange/Winblows).
>
> (begin soapbox)
> This is a heartache we have with Remedy as we re-evaluate ITSM platform
> selection in the future.  BMC's attitude is increasingly "just get a windows
> box" for more and more of their solutions or sub-features with ARS.  We're
> getting tired of hearing "oh, we haven't developed a unix version of SSO for
> 6.03" in the past or "just use MAPI or POP3" now for incoming email.
>
> Remedy started out primarily a Unix system and much of their growth was due
> to that sector.  Government, at least a big majority of it, runs on
> Unix/Oracle.  The younger generation of devs may not see things that way and
> I have no desire to fire a debate thread here, but spend some time in the
> military sector and then evaluate that statement.  If BMC doesn't wake up
> and smell the coffee as they roll out products, they could start finding
> their wallet getting lighter, IMHO.  Slapping Windows-box bandaids in a
> secure Unix environment is not a realistic workaround just because BMC
> doesn't have the committment to ensuring that their product works
> as-advertised on all environments they claim to support when they sell it
> and collect their multi-million-dollar support contracts each year.
> (end soapbox)

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