I like that ... an activist in the group !!! Susan
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ** Maybe we need to form a union to keep our rates up to what they should > be. > > hbr > > > On 8/6/08, Tortolero, Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> ** >> >> Shawn, Right ON!.... >> >> Remedy peeps…good Remedy peeps should NOT devalue themselves…if you are >> willing to take 50-60 an hour you are screwing everyone by giving away your >> HARD earned money and devaluing our profession. The bar should be set at 100 >> minimum an hour. And Shawn is COMPLETELY correct about that 15%, in fact I >> go 12% tops. Anything more then that and you are getting robbed. It's not >> like we don't get 10-15 calls a week with job offers…we are needed and will >> be needed...set the standard, maintain the standard. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> -j >> >> >> >> *Joe Tortolero* >> >> *Remedy Consultant* >> >> *Desk - 561-682-2780* >> >> *Cell - 561-665-1363* >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Pierson, Shawn >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:11 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Salary in Bay Area >> >> >> >> That's strange but it makes sense that the bay area would pay less than >> the rest of the country due to an overabundance of Remedy people. You can >> probably get six figures as a Remedy developer with more than ten years just >> about anywhere in the U.S. if you are working on ITSM, although no person >> with that much experience should even be supporting a home grown system for >> less than $80k/year anywhere. You can get that much at a job in Oklahoma or >> Ohio, which have much lower costs of living than the bay area. It's all >> about supply and demand though, so if you want to be paid well you have to >> live somewhere that has very few Remedy people available, and a lot of >> companies making decent money so they can pay a decent salary too. >> >> >> >> As far as consulting, with 10 years of experience I would suggest looking >> at a minimum of $125/hour. I know BMC charges twice that for their senior >> people, and a lot of the major Remedy consulting firms charge similar >> rates. Any consulting firm that keeps more than 15% or $15/hour from your >> rate (depending on whether you are making more or less than $100/hr) is >> keeping too much. When I first did consulting I was ripped off a few times >> because I went through too many layers, where you have a small consulting >> firm taking 15%, who has a deal with a larger consulting firm taking 15%, >> who then deals directly with the client. In fact, I remember working with a >> guy who was being paid less than $40/hour while the client was paying >> $150/hour only because he had three or four consulting firms in the middle >> who each took their cut. When consulting, always ask who the direct client >> is, and if they refuse to tell you or if they tell you the name of another >> consulting company, don't let them submit your information to the client. >> >> >> >> Shawn Pierson >> >> >> __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" >> html___ __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers >> Are" html___ >> > > > > -- > Howard Richter > Red Hat Certified Technician > CompTIA Linux+ Certified > ITIL Foundation Certified > E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] > LinkedIn Profile = http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 __Platinum Sponsor: > www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
