ummmm ... is that a per hour charge? On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ** Susan, > > The first item we need to address is how much we want to charge for dues. > > hbr > > On 8/6/08, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> ** >> I like that ... an activist in the group !!! >> >> Susan >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> ** Maybe we need to form a union to keep our rates up to what they >>> should be. >>> >>> hbr >>> >>> >>> On 8/6/08, Tortolero, Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> ** >>>> >>>> Shawn, Right ON!.... >>>> >>>> Remedy peeps…good Remedy peeps should NOT devalue themselves…if you are >>>> willing to take 50-60 an hour you are screwing everyone by giving away your >>>> HARD earned money and devaluing our profession. The bar should be set at >>>> 100 >>>> minimum an hour. And Shawn is COMPLETELY correct about that 15%, in fact I >>>> go 12% tops. Anything more then that and you are getting robbed. It's not >>>> like we don't get 10-15 calls a week with job offers…we are needed and will >>>> be needed...set the standard, maintain the standard. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> -j >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Joe Tortolero* >>>> >>>> *Remedy Consultant* >>>> >>>> *Desk - 561-682-2780* >>>> >>>> *Cell - 561-665-1363* >>>> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Pierson, Shawn >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:11 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: Salary in Bay Area >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That's strange but it makes sense that the bay area would pay less than >>>> the rest of the country due to an overabundance of Remedy people. You can >>>> probably get six figures as a Remedy developer with more than ten years >>>> just >>>> about anywhere in the U.S. if you are working on ITSM, although no person >>>> with that much experience should even be supporting a home grown system for >>>> less than $80k/year anywhere. You can get that much at a job in Oklahoma >>>> or >>>> Ohio, which have much lower costs of living than the bay area. It's all >>>> about supply and demand though, so if you want to be paid well you have to >>>> live somewhere that has very few Remedy people available, and a lot of >>>> companies making decent money so they can pay a decent salary too. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As far as consulting, with 10 years of experience I would suggest >>>> looking at a minimum of $125/hour. I know BMC charges twice that for their >>>> senior people, and a lot of the major Remedy consulting firms charge >>>> similar >>>> rates. Any consulting firm that keeps more than 15% or $15/hour from your >>>> rate (depending on whether you are making more or less than $100/hr) is >>>> keeping too much. When I first did consulting I was ripped off a few times >>>> because I went through too many layers, where you have a small consulting >>>> firm taking 15%, who has a deal with a larger consulting firm taking 15%, >>>> who then deals directly with the client. In fact, I remember working with >>>> a >>>> guy who was being paid less than $40/hour while the client was paying >>>> $150/hour only because he had three or four consulting firms in the middle >>>> who each took their cut. When consulting, always ask who the direct client >>>> is, and if they refuse to tell you or if they tell you the name of another >>>> consulting company, don't let them submit your information to the client. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Shawn Pierson >>>> >>>> >>>> __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" >>>> html___ __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the >>>> Answers Are" html___ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Howard Richter >>> Red Hat Certified Technician >>> CompTIA Linux+ Certified >>> ITIL Foundation Certified >>> E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> LinkedIn Profile = http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 __Platinum >>> Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ >> >> >> >> __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" >> html___ >> > > > > -- > Howard Richter > Red Hat Certified Technician > CompTIA Linux+ Certified > ITIL Foundation Certified > E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] > LinkedIn Profile = http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 __Platinum Sponsor: > www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ > _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
