One advantage I saw, was the "Save All" option.  I don't know how many other
people develop like I do.  But I will open a bunch of workflow and do my
development on it, and then want to save multiple pieces of workflow at
once.  This is a great in that now (on a busy/slow system) I can hit save
all and walk away, where previously, I was forced to sit and wait for each
one to save so that I could save the next.

Admittedly, I am a natural optomist, but I like the new layout.  I was
un-aware of the ability to temporarily maximize a piece of the screen.  That
will be a nice feature.  But I do agree about the learning curve.

These are just my opinions.

Brian Goralczyk


On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Gidd <[email protected]> wrote:

> So I have to ask, perhaps Doug M. will respond, what is the Net benefit of
> this latest incarnation/iteration of the
> Developer Studio?
>
> Way, way back when (4++ years ago) when we had a Remedy Development
> Committee those participating were shown the
> New Latest/Greatest Developer Studio - Doug remembers he was there and the
> chair.
>
> Roll the clock forward to now and here it is again in all its glory yet it
> seems to me that it misses the mark.
>
> Just wondering what you folks over at BMC use as your development criteria:
>
>        Does it make my development efforts easier?
>        Does it make it easier to view/see design objects, multiple objects?
>        Does it eliminate/enhance Right-Click options/properties?
>        Apart from UN-DO and RE-DO, what substantial New functionality does
> this bring to the table?
>
> Sorry Doug, but from my perspective I am scratching my head and still
> wondering why?  I honestly believe
> that this latest tool will substantially INCREASE the amount of time I will
> spend in development and has the
> potential to significantly impact release ability.  Perhaps BMC is looking
> to eliminate developers all together?
>
> Inquiring minds would like to know !
>
> Maybe we can get John Sundberg to do a survey on this, might be
> interesting.
>
>
> Regards...Gidd
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:09 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Remedy Deve3loper Studio 7.5???
>
> I have, and I agree that the learning curve is shall we say...steep.  The
> comment I was making was in regards to the '6 times the screen' that David
> had made.  Just a suggestion, there is a doc that I believe they published
> after the release that gives you a 'this is how you did it in Admin, this
> is
> how you do it in Dev Studio'...it was a good read during the beta and might
> help with some of the conversion issues.  :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Sanders
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:57 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Remedy Deve3loper Studio 7.5???
>
> So have you tried to use it LJ? Take something simple... I have a form,
> let's say Form-1.  How do I list all the active links or filters linked to
> that form?  If it is the primary form for the workflow object I can list
> them, but what if I have shared workflow and Form-1 is not the primary
> form?
> I can see no way to display shared workflow linked to the form.
>
> I can display View properties, but as yet have not found how to display and
> set Form properties, such as the results list.  It must be there somewhere,
> but....
>
> Have you tried setting default permissions in an application - as far as I
> can see it completely ignores them.  Admittedly, some of these issues may
> be
> lack of familiarity. Or it could be bugs - I don't know which yet.
>
> Have you tried setting the tab order in a View yet?  Change the tab order
> number of one field and it 'guesses' how to renumber the other fields to
> take account of the change.  Really frustrating.
>
> So change is always painful, and there's going to be a learning curve with
> this tool, but I really do not see anything that's easier yet (apart from
> the undo feature which I guess we'll be using a lot to start with)
>
> Regards
>
> David Sanders
> Remedy Solution Architect
> Enterprise Service Suite @ Work
> ==========================
>
> tel +44 1494 468980
> mobile +44 7710 377761
> email [email protected]
>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Remedy Deve3loper Studio 7.5???
>
> And you are still having issues with the screen not being big enough?  I'm
> surprised because if you want to work with the form layout, maximize that
> frame and it takes up the entire screen, if you need to work with a field
> properties, unminimize that frame and it opens up to work with, re-minimize
> it when you aren't working with it anymore...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Sanders
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:37 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Remedy Deve3loper Studio 7.5???
>
> Yup
>
> David Sanders
> Remedy Solution Architect
> Enterprise Service Suite @ Work
> ==========================
>
> tel +44 1494 468980
> mobile +44 7710 377761
> email [email protected]
>
> web http://www.westoverconsulting.co.uk
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Remedy Deve3loper Studio 7.5???
>
> Ok, I have got to ask.  Have you guys yet figured out how to maximize
> frames
> you want maximized for the moment, and minimize those that you don't need
> at
> the moment?  Eclipse is very easy to work in when you know the easy ways to
> utilize the frames you need.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Sanders
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:16 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Remedy Deve3loper Studio 7.5???
>
> Well, part of it is familiarity I guess, but everything seems to take 3
> times as long, and 6 times the screen area. I'm running at 1920x1200 and
> it's just not big enough.
>
> David Sanders
> Remedy Solution Architect
> Enterprise Service Suite @ Work
> ==========================
>
> tel +44 1494 468980
> mobile +44 7710 377761
> email [email protected]
>
> web http://www.westoverconsulting.co.uk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Guillermo Alfredo Torres Barron
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Remedy Deve3loper Studio 7.5???
>
> Hi fellows
> How do you see the new remedy developer studio 7.5?, why to many clicks to
> make a system? before it was so very fast; rihgt now is nasty...
> Thanks in advance
> Greetings from Mexico
>
>
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