The SHR:Schema Names form already had an entry, but the arschema table does
not.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Joe DeSouza <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
> Does the arschema table have an entry for it already?
>
> Joe
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Charles Baldi <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 20, 2009 4:07:55 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Install Asset onto a working Incident/Problem/Change
> system?
>
> ** Yes, same errors when importing manually.  Fundamentally these are all
> because the AST:BaseElement form does not exist.  I cannot find a def file
> that imports this and I believe that is because it is expected to be built
> from the CMDB through the Sync Asset UI process (cmdbdriver) which is
> failing to create the form.
>
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Joe DeSouza <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> **
>> And manually importing these fails too?
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Charles Baldi <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 20, 2009 1:43:15 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Install Asset onto a working Incident/Problem/Change
>> system?
>>
>> ** Joe,
>> Good suggestion, but the installer is not "failing".  It completes
>> happily, but the summary table at the end (and the log files) show many,
>> many def file load errors along the way.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Joe DeSouza <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> The contents of your Share Application Properties form may be prompting
>>> your installer that Asset is already installed? Did you try clearing the
>>> Asset related entries in the Share Application Properties (entries with the
>>> current version you are trying to install) form and then trying to install
>>> it?
>>>
>>> If you choose the route to clear those entries, I would suggest that you
>>> take a backup of these entries and then delete them just in case you need to
>>> revert.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  *From:* Charles Baldi <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 20, 2009 1:17:54 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Install Asset onto a working Incident/Problem/Change
>>> system?
>>>
>>> **
>>>   So when I try to install Asset, I get 60 failed objects under the ast
>>> component and the culprit appears to be that the system is unable to create
>>> AST:BaseElement.  If I try to force the creation using Sync Asset UI, I get
>>> the cryptic logs:
>>>
>>> Start processing of form AST:BaseElement
>>> Creating new form
>>> Will fetch display infor for form AST:BaseElement
>>> Will make the new Form AST:BaseElement that is an inner join on
>>> BMC.CORE:BMC_BaseElement
>>> Failed to create Form for: AST:BaseElement
>>>     Form does not exist on server
>>>     AST:BaseElement
>>>
>>> Of course the AST:BaseElement does not exist, that is why I am creating
>>> it!  Has anyone seen this before or have suggestions on how to fix this?
>>>
>>> - I am logged-in as Demo with proper (administrator) privs
>>> - I confirm that Demo can create forms
>>> - I tried "forcing" things by creating a fake AST:BaseElement form
>>>
>>> I still get the can't create message.  Have a call in with BMC but no
>>> response in over 24 hours :-(
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM, strauss <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> Install Asset 7.0.03 which is current to patch 003.
>>>>
>>>> Install Patch 007 which will bring Asset up to 007, but unfortunately
>>>> will overwrite any changes 008 made to the other apps.
>>>>
>>>> Install Patch 008 or 009 which will bring ALL of the apps to the same
>>>> level.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We went live on 007 in Spring 08 but were looking at patching ITSM to
>>>> 008 or 009 this spring, while also trying to get the ITSM Suite licensing
>>>> that would have given us Asset (the only one we lack).  It was not funded,
>>>> but we delayed our patching until after that decision so as to avoid the
>>>> situation that you are in.  Applying 007 at our site requires that I
>>>> reconstruct a _*lot*_ of customizations in Incident – learned and
>>>> documented when we went from 006 to 007 just before go live in May 08,
>>>> whereas 008 and 009 had very little effect on Incident (better designed
>>>> patches) and mostly applied to Change and Task which we have not 
>>>> customized.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
>>>>
>>>> Call Tracking Administration Manager
>>>>
>>>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
>>>>
>>>> http://itsm.unt.edu/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>  *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Charles Baldi
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:12 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: Install Asset onto a working Incident/Problem/Change
>>> system?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> To clarify, we do have CMDB 2.1.0 at patch 4.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our first attempt to install Asset resulted in a pile of errors against
>>> missing forms (e.g., AST:PurchaseLineItemAssetJoin).  I was puzzled because
>>> I expected the Asset install to handle all the AST forms.  Perhaps this is
>>> because we are at ITSM patch 008?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So Chris, you are saying that we should
>>>
>>> 1.  Install ITSM patch 007 (downgrade)
>>>
>>> 2.  Install Asset
>>>
>>> 3.  Re-apply patch008
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM, strauss <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Asset installs at patch 003, and cannot be brought up to patch 008
>>> without first running patch 007, the last patch to include patches 004-006.
>>> Because patch 007 will apply to ALL ITSM apps, it will knock ALL of your
>>> other apps back to 007.  Then you can run 008 against everything.  The
>>> release notes for 009 were very specific about all of this… not sure about
>>> 008.  If you had to do any post 008 cleanup on Incident, etc., you will have
>>> to do it again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
>>>
>>> Call Tracking Administration Manager
>>>
>>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
>>>
>>> http://itsm.unt.edu/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Charles Baldi
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:43 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Install Asset onto a working Incident/Problem/Change system?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> We have been asked to install Asset Management into an existing
>>> configuration that already has Incident, Problem, and Change.  Our current
>>> configs are:
>>>
>>> ARS 1.7 p005
>>>
>>> Incident/Problem/Change 7.0.03, p008
>>>
>>> Windows 2003 server
>>>
>>> SQL Server 2005
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are opening an issue with BMC to get some direction, but I wondered if
>>> anyone else has experience in "retro fitting" Asset into an existing ITSM
>>> install.  I'm hoping to be able to do this without doing a ground-up install
>>> with Asset first, then Incident/Problem/Change, then patch, then re-apply
>>> customizations.  Am I dreaming?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Chuck Baldi
>>>
>>>
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