Rick,

If I were to take the $70/hr "all-inclusive" rate and had an airfare of $700, 
hotel for 4 nights at $150/night and a car at $150 it would equal $1,450 in 
travel related expenses. Take the $1,450 and divide it by 40 hours you have 
$36.25 an hour of the $70/hr rate disappearing. Your actual hourly rate is 
$33.75 an hour in pay. Moreover, I am being somewhat conservative in the cost 
since your first trip would be higher due to a short lead time which increases 
costs. These costs could increase on holidays and certainly fuel costs are a 
wildcard for both the plane and car. For me it just doesn't seem worth it and 
only seeking contracts within local driving range allows you to actually make 
the $70/hr..

Tom

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rick Cook 
  Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:52 AM
  Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a 
Remedy Developer?


  **Well, I don't mind all-inclusive so much, as it gives employers the ability 
to estimate budget impact. Its expecting that $70/hr will pay a reasonable rate 
to the contractor after those expenses are covered. Not that it is a very good 
rate by itself. And they wonder why some of those stay open for so long? You 
get what you pay for. Good, Fast, Cheap. Pick any TWO.

  Rick



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  From: "Thomas J. Mutaffis" 
  Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:37:08 -0400
  To: <[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a 
Remedy Developer?


  Exactly Rick. In the past 5 or 6 years two things have happened. First you 
need to be qualified in two to five skills sets or what might be "stand-alone" 
skills and the horrible word "all-inclusive."

  I do wonder how the folks here deal with the "all-inclusive" aspect? For me 
it's almost not worth looking for anything that is not local. If travel and 
lodging is required you must go on the high side to financially protect 
yourself against price increases, travel during holidays or other situations 
that could effect all aspects of travel. One could easily find themselves 
working for $25 to $45 an hour on a $70/hr rate and calculated travel cost to 
increase this to something like $95 - $105 if you don't protect yourself 
against the things causing blips in travel expense. Hence you need to average 
in a certain amount after doing your research regarding renting a car, hotel, 
cheap food and airfare. However, if you do this you've immediately put yourself 
out of the game. I typically tell recruiters using this method to find someone 
local since it's nearly impossible to be competitive.

  So how do you folks handle the "all-inclusive" aspect when you know that 
travel will be involved with a contract your considering?

  Tom
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Rick Cook 
    Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:08 AM
    Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a 
Remedy Developer?


    ** That's nothing. Look at the open positions on Monster wanting someone 
who is both a Remedy guru AND Java/Perl scripting SDE. For $70/hr on contract. 
Look up delusional in the dictionary and you will see that req listed.

    Rick



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    From: "Thomas J. Mutaffis" 
    Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:13:34 -0400
    To: <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a 
Remedy Developer?


    Here's one for all of you to figure out. What are they actually seeking in 
whom they hire? Maybe superman?

    Minimum Required Skills:
    remedy, BMC Remedy, ITSM, BMDS, C2BMC, ITIL, sql server, sql, database 
development, Missile Defense, SME, Subject Matter Expert, Secret Clearance, 
DOD, TS/SCI, TS, SC, Remedy Engineer, Remedy Programmer, Remedy Developer, 
Software Engineer, Database Engineer, Database Developer

    Here is the reward for being the requirement for about 4 or 5 people.

    Location..:   Washington, DC 
    Tax Term:    FULLTIME
    Payrate...:    $100,000 - $140,000 
    Length....:    Full-time, Employee

    Confusing?


    "Meyer, Jennifer L" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
news:2463ce9eee8c19409070f859f8f46fe53c5f06f...@ncwitmxmbev36.ad.ncmail...
    That's ok, Shawn.  I'm asking because I'm genuinely confused and trying to 
figure it out.

    Jennifer Meyer

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
    Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:38 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a 
Remedy Developer?

    Actually I see things in the reverse of how you stated them as well.

    Having worked professionally doing system administration work as well as 
software development (including but not limited to ARS) I see system 
administrators and DBAs being more easily replaceable than software developers. 
 Sure, developers may not always have root/Administrator access, but their job 
is much more complex than performing administration duties.

    You can also look at it from the amount of damage a person can do.  If you 
are an incompetent system administrator, your system might run slowly or even 
crash and have to be replaced.  If you are an incompetent developer, your bad 
code could affect a company for the five years or so that your app is used, and 
even beyond if the data is migrated into the application that replaces yours.

    Of course, a good system administrator is capable of doing some coding, and 
a good developer is knowledgeable of hardware, DB, and OS limitations.  You 
can't master either role if you stay within strict confines of your job 
description.

    Shawn Pierson

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
    Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:49 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a 
Remedy Developer?

    So would it be accurate to understand from the majority of your responses 
that in Remedy, the terms "administrator" and "developer" are bass-ackward from 
the rest of the IT world in that a Remedy administrator handles data 
configuration in the user tool, whereas a Remedy developer is responsible for 
application performance, maintenance, and improvements?

    As I understand the rest of the IT world, Administrators have Root, and 
therefore god-like powers, whereas developers are just a bunch of code-monkeys 
who will be replaced by a fresh college graduate the moment management deems 
their salaries are too high.

    If my summary above is correct, there are a lot of hiring managers out 
there that are confused.  Since my job duties have always included everything 
from server build and application installation to user training and my title 
has always been "Remedy Administrator" Jr, Sr, Consultant, etc..., I think we 
need a better system.

    Jennifer Meyer

    
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