One other thought on Change lite. You could (not that you should) use the 
"Request" type of an incident to simulate tracking a Change Request, though 
there is no Approval interface to handle that.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From:         "Ray T." <[email protected]>

Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:29:44 
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Service Desk 7.x...no longer has mini Change, Asset functionality?


Doug,
Thank you for the insight.

CMDB more than beats Asset Tracking, I absolutely agree.

I wasn't sure about the change part. There is a not a designated "change"
tracking in 7.x, but besides that I see that although there is some value in
having a separately named module with it's own interface and IDs... that the
rudimentary features Change Tracking had are not lost if you use IM/tasks
for changes.

Strauss, Howard, Willaim, thanks for the input.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Mueller, Doug <[email protected]> wrote:

> ** Ray,
>
> You note that when you get Service Desk you get Incident, Problem, CMDB,
> and tasking support.
>
> Well, CMDB is a major step beyond Asset Tracking that was in the 6.x
> HelpDesk solution.  So, you have
> the ability to track assets by entering them in the CMDB and you can do
> relationships and you can have
> auditing and you can have ....   So, in fact the 7.x releases of
> ServiceDesk have more capability than you
> did with Asset Tracking in the previous releases.
>
> And, you note tasking support.  This includes the ability to have task
> templates and run any task flow that
> you want to run within the Incident Management System.  Well, in the
> earlier versions of HelpDesk, you
> had change tasking.  This is an equivalent functionality that is now an
> inherent capability of Incident
> Management and in fact is enhanced in that you can have tasks associated
> with any Incident and not just
> within a Change Tasking mode.
>
> So, the 7.5 environment doesn't have explicit subsystems called Asset
> Tracking and Change Tasking like
> the 6.x and earlier versions did.  These functions are simply capabilities
> of the ServiceDesk product for
> general purpose use within the Service Desk and not as specialized
> subsystems.  The Asset Tracking is
> contained within the CMDB and the Change Tasking within the included
> tasking subsystem support.
>
> Of course if you want full fledged and full capability Change Management
> and full capability Asset
> Management, there are full scale applications for those capabilities as
> well.
>
>
> I encourage you that rather than looking at the names of subsystem, you
> look at the functionality that was
> available and provided with the solution and I think you will find that
> there is equivalent capability around
> both the Asset Tracking and Change Tasking functionality in the 7.x
> releases that is in most ways a
> superior set of capability than was there before.  It also removes all
> confusion around the difference between
> Change Tasking and Change Management being the simple subsystem vs. the
> full application.
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Doug Mueller
>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:31 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Service Desk 7.x...no longer has mini Change, Asset
> functionality?
>
> ** Hi folks,
> Can you please confirm this:
> my understanding is that unlike older versions of ITSM (6.x - ), in which
> even if you only had Help Desk application installed, you would have Change
> Tasking and Asset Tracking modules installed for free use...in Service Desk
> 7.0 - 7.5, there are no such free modules that do limited Change and Asset
> Management.
>
> So if you buy Service Desk 7.5, you get Incident, Problem, CMDB. And of
> course the components like Tasking and what not, but nothing that will do
> change mgmt or asset management on a small scale. Did I get this right?
>
> Thanks.
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