Hi Dave,

This thing is not really something you can change on the fly, I think...

I would setup a parallel server, against a new database instance, reimport
the definitions and then SYNC the data using the API (RRR|Chive).

When you are done do one of the following:
1. switch to the new server
2. redirect your old server against the new dbinstance
3. maybe export/import your new db to the old instance

        Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

ps. Doing an incremental data sync with RRR|Chive against 250 forms and a
total of 10 million records took 23 minutes to complete when I last did it
two weeks ago. ds.

> AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8MSWIN1252 allows characters that do not translate
> properly in AMERICAN_AMERICA.AL32UTF8.  Examples are all your 8-bit ascii
> characters.  The code points are different between the two localizations
> which means that some other characters may not render properly depending
> on
> how things were written and are now being read.  Try running Oracle's
> csscan
> utility against the db to see what comes back.
>
> Do you see checksum errors in the logs (i.e., invalid definition) in the
> arerror.log?
>
> Axton Grams
>
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> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Shellman, David <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> **
>> We have finally identified the root of the failed installations.  Now to
>> figure out how to correct this issue.
>>
>> A couple of years ago we installed 7.01 on a new app server and to a
>> separate DB server.  We went through the steps of setting the servers up
>> to
>> for Unicode.  We are a world wide company with helpdesks in the US,
>> Europe,
>> China, Japan, Thailand, etc.  We asked questions to support and backline
>> engineers to make sure that we had it setup correctly.  Last fall we
>> upgraded to 7.01.
>>
>> Turns out we missed a registry setting.  On our app servers (development
>> and production) NLS_LANG is set to AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8MSWIN1252.  When
>> we
>> change make the registry setting change to
>> NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.AL32UTF8
>> as noted in the installation guide, we start seeing all sorts of errors
>> in
>> the arerror log about missing forms, missing data, missing workflow,
>> etc.
>>
>> We've not seen a few issues with languages that we can directly relate
>> to
>> having an incorrect NLS_LANG.  We have seen a few issues that were bugs
>> in
>> the email engine.
>>
>> Any thoughts on how to correct?
>>
>> Dave
>>  ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kemes, Lisa
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2010 2:58 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: 7.5 Installation Problems (of course!)
>>
>> **
>>
>> BMC looked at our logs and among many errors, said that one of the
>> errors
>> is "because either the Group, User, ReportType, ReportCreator, has bad
>> entries or duplicate entries on them."
>> There were no duplicates per se, but there were records with duplicate
>> Unique Id's in the Unique Identifier (on the Group Form).  Not sure why
>> the
>> system would allow this, but we think it's from doing Copy to New
>> actions on
>> some of the Groups.  Not 100% sure yet is this is one of the culprits
>> but we
>> are looking into this....
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kemes, Lisa
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2010 2:25 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: 7.5 Installation Problems (of course!)
>>
>> **
>> I couldn't find any RIK files under the TEMP directory (should be under
>> the
>> Utilities folder correct?)
>>
>> But I did find these logs....
>>
>> All the RIK files we can find are:
>> ARServer-RIK_PostUpgrade.log
>> ARServer-RIK_PostUgradeInstall.log
>> ARServer-RIK_PostUpgrade_error.log
>> ARServer-RIK_PostUpgrade_apps.log
>>
>> In the ARServer-RIK_PostUpgrade Log:
>> **** Cannot get target schema details from the server specified.
>> **** Status List : 1 items
>> **** ERROR: #303  ReportType - Form does not exist on server
>> ****
>> **** Attempting import from schema ReportType in file to ReportType on
>> server
>> **** The command line option for schema is not valid. Cannot import
>> **** Loading Mappings failed: The import was not attempted
>> ****
>>
>>
>> If only I can find the command line that is not working...
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tommy Morris
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2010 1:25 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: 7.5 Installation Problems (of course!)
>>
>> **
>>
>> It was in a RIK file. I think that this one in particular was created
>> using
>> an install utility that BMC provided but you can check in your temp
>> directory to see if you can find one there.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kemes, Lisa
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2010 12:20 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: 7.5 Installation Problems (of course!)
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> Thank Tommy!  What file is this in?
>>
>>
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tommy Morris
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 23, 2010 1:56 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: 7.5 Installation Problems (of course!)
>>
>> **
>>
>> I will apologize for the length of this response but maybe this
>> information
>> will help BMC to check for the issue that we had first so it will not
>> take
>> as long to get you up and running. Here is what BMC found during our two
>> months of troubleshooting:
>>
>>
>>
>> “By the way, Here is the info that tells me difference between this
>> build
>> vs previous build as even though your installer shows worked sometimes
>> but
>> it actually were not really was working as expected:
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is the working version:
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing : char-set: windows-1252
>>
>> #
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 0
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing : begin schema
>>
>>    name           : Group
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 1
>>
>>
>>
>> ***Processing schema :
>>
>> begin schema
>>
>>    name           : Group
>>
>>    core-version   : 2
>>
>>    upgrade-version: 0
>>
>>    num-fields     : 38
>>
>>    timestamp      : 1137189702
>>
>>    owner          : ARSERVER
>>
>>    last-changed   : ARSERVER
>>
>>    default-vui    : Default Admin View1
>>
>>    num-vuis       : 1
>>
>>    export-version : 9
>>
>>    schema-type    : 1
>>
>>    next-field-id  : 536870919
>>
>>    index          : 1\179\0
>>
>>    get-list-flds  :
>> 7\105\30\0\\106\10\0\\107\10\0\\120\10\0\\115\12\0\\116\17\0\\7\8\0\
>>
>>    help-text      : The "Group" form is a very special form which is
>> used
>> primarily to define user access to the various features of the Action
>> Request System, including fo
>>
>>    help-text      : rms, guides, applications, fields within a form, and
>> active links. Five special groups are provided by the AR System -
>> Public,
>> Administrator, Customiz
>>
>>    help-text      : e, Submitter and Assignee.  The administrator of the
>> AR
>> System may set up additional groups to reflect various functional
>> groups,
>> such as a "HD Staff" o
>>
>>    help-text      : r "Tech Support" group.For more information on how
>> this
>> form works to provide access control for your AR System, please refer to
>> the
>> Action Request Sy
>>
>>    help-text      : stem Workflow Administrator's Guide.
>>
>>    object-prop    :
>> 6\60006\4\0\\60008\40\0\60009\4\0\\60010\4\0\\60018\4\5\Group\60022\4\38\1\33\AR:HN
>> ~   c}     \
>>
>>    archive        : 0\0\0
>>
>>       arch-time   : 0\0\0\0
>>
>>       arch-from   :
>>
>>    audit          : 0\0\0\
>>
>> vui  {
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is the log that shows it is skipping processing schema because
>> missing
>> “b” – “before processing : egin schema”
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing : char-set: windows-1252
>>
>> #
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 0
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing : egin schema
>>
>>    name           : Group
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 0
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing : ui  {
>>
>>    id             : 20002
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 0
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing :
>>
>> field {
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 0
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing :
>>
>> field {
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 0
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing :
>>
>> field {
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 0
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing :
>>
>> field {
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 0
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing :
>>
>> field {
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 0
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing :
>>
>> field {
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 0
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing :
>>
>> field {
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 0
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing :
>>
>> field {
>>
>>
>>
>> ***type of object 0
>>
>>
>>
>> ***before processing :”
>>
>>
>>
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