Thanks to all listers participated in this thread as this discussion really
helped me to clear my concepts.

Thanks & Regards,
Mahendra Mahalkar



On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:36 PM, strauss <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
>
> As near as I can tell, Change Management is the process for continuous
> improvement (or evolution) through corrective changes to a service, and
> works at the component level of the services (CIs, assets, processes).
> Release and Deployment Management is more the process for quality assurance
> of all existing and planned services - with a more strategic approach.
>
>
>
> A few quotes from references on Change and Release Management might help,
> since the ITIL v3 diagrams and texts generally seem to place Change
> Management and Release Management adjacent to each other under Service
> Transition:
>
>
>
> Van Bon, Jan, ed.  Foundations of IT Service Management Based on ITIL V3
> (2007):
>
> “Changes can be bundled into a release.”  P.238.
>
>
>
> Klosterboer, Larry, Implementing ITIL Change and Release Management (2009):
>
> “Release management is like an orchestra conductor, and change management
> is like the musicians.” P.6
>
> “Change management provides a disciplined approach to implementing IT
> changes. Decommissioning a service, upgrading an infrastructure component,
> and adopting a new delivery process are all examples of changes that should
> be tracked by the change management discipline.  Each change is considered
> in isolation and flows through a set of steps, including identification,
> documentation, assessment, authorization, execution, and evaluation.” P.6-7.
>
> “Release management provides a strategic approach to implementing an IT
> service.” P.7.
>
> “…an IT service is a set of components and service assets that work
> together to provide a unique benefit to the organization.  Before ITIL V3,
> many organizations used the term “IT system” instead of “IT service.”
> “System” places the focus on IT components, whereas “service” emphasizes
> value to the organization. P.7.
>
> “Service transition consists of the short-term view of change management
> and the long-term view of release management.” P.7.
>
>
>
> So, Release Management is Strategic, and Change Management is Operational.
> IMHO, the ITIL V3 model has now added so many overlapping functions to the
> V2 model, probably to meet new oversight requirements, that it is no longer
> comprehendible.  It’s no wonder that the software vendors are finding it
> hard to instantiate the ITIL defined “processes” into coherent application
> modules.   I hate to say it, but ITIL is probably overdue for a complete
> redesign, with consolidation and simplification as its goals.
>
>
>
> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
> Call Tracking Administration Manager
> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
> http://itsm.unt.edu/
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rick Cook
> *Sent:* Monday, July 26, 2010 7:03 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Change Management question
>
>
>
> ** I was talking to our local ITIL folks about this this morning, and their
> opinion was that BMC constructed the Release/Change relationship backward -
> that Change should be above Release.  I have heard others say the opposite,
> so maybe that's true, maybe not, and there was agreement about there being
> sufficient wiggle room that a company could use it either way, but that got
> me wondering why BMC did it the way they did it.
>
> Then it hit me.  If they put Release between Change and Task, it would have
> broken up the Change module.  So they put it on top of Change.  The problem
> with that is that the way they have constructed the relationships limits the
> customer's ability to use it in a Change --> Release scenario, due to the
> fact that while Releases can be related to RFCs, they cannot be dependent
> upon them - the Parent/Child scenario only works when Release is on top.
> That makes the process of monitoring completion of all Releases under a
> Change a manual one.  It also makes Tasks almost unusable.  That's not a
> major problem for us due to some other process and tooling issues, but it
> will be for many.
>
> So against my better judgment, and with the understanding that it is not
> optimal from a scaling and efficiency perspective, I feel that we will end
> up using a Master RFC controlling one or more Releases, which would then
> optionally control one or more subordinate Changes.  I will submit an RFE to
> BMC to enhance the relationship options, but I don't see them changing that
> any time soon.
>
> Rick
>
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Guillaume Rheault <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> **
>
> For the complex situation you described, I think the following scenario is
> the best:
>
> Release --> Change/Activity --> Task
>
> Approvals can be configured for releases, so you won't be missing that
> initial approval.
>
> Also as you know, you can relate task templates to change templates, to
> "standardize" the work to be done
>
> Guillaume
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> [email protected]] on behalf of Rick Cook [[email protected]]
>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 23, 2010 3:59 PM
>
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Change Management question
>
>
>
> ** Well, having Release at the top allows things to flow Release -->
> Change/Activity --> Task.  Putting Release below Change eliminates the
> ability to use Tasks, since they can't be directly subordinate to a Release.
>
>
>
> So our options for a dependent (i.e. Parent/Child) flow are:
>
> Release --> Change/Activity --> Task
> --OR--
> Change --> Task
> --OR--
> Release --> Change(s)
>
> Do I have that right?
>
> Rick
>
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