Now is that appropriate from a MVP candidate? :) On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM, LJ LongWing <[email protected]> wrote:
> ** > > Like that time I called you a !@#$@#$ @#@#$ @#$@#[email protected]…the good times*** > * > > ** ** > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller > *Sent:* Monday, September 12, 2011 1:51 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: "Outside of Reserved Range" warning?**** > > ** ** > > ** Exactly. I have to admit those barriers to entry must also be a factor > in why the Remedy community works so well. There is incentive to remaining > professional since we are usually representing somebody else and that > somebody puts food on the table. Some of those other communities where all > you needs is a used book to start can get kind of vile. I remember only a > handful of times when there were some personal jabs against another Lister. > **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Jason**** > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:54 AM, LJ LongWing <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > ** **** > > Jason,**** > > I think you are correct on the ‘too small’ on the community part. In the > other languages, some middle schooler can go to a garage sale, pick up a > ‘Java for dummies’ book, install tons of free frameworks/tools, and start > producing Java code for free in his bedroom. We on the other hand require a > Server, DB, and most importantly, a CONTRACT. You MUST have a contract > before you can even download an un-licensed version of the server…now > granted, I have done some awesome stuff with an unlicensed server before…so > no real complaints about that…but I wouldn’t have been able to do any of it > unless I was already on contract to do other remedy stuff. You can run > Remedy on free versions of both SQL Server and Oracle…so it’s not really the > ‘cost’ of running a free server…but there is A LOT of setup needed…and it’s > just not ‘inviting’ for people to get into the community. And because of > all of the above, that means that a vast majority of everything developed is > done on someone else’s dime…so unless you have a ‘great boss’, you can’t > publish it on the internet for free…**** > > **** > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller > *Sent:* Friday, September 09, 2011 5:53 PM**** > > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: "Outside of Reserved Range" warning?**** > > **** > > ** **** > > Joe, you nailed it (although I did get Jennifer's joke too). There are so > many communities where you can download code/functions/scripts/etc for other > languages but there isn't one for Remedy; well it is there just not actively > used in this manner. There are a few apps/utilities on the BMCDN but not as > many as I think a lot of us would like to see.**** > > **** > > Now to be perfectly honest, I have a few utilities that I have been meaning > to post to the BMCDN for a few years now (the data export one is sad without > runmacro.exe). We have seen arswiki.org come and go. Axton provided the > site for years and there just wasn't enough involvement to keep the site up > (I am guilty too).**** > > **** > > I am fearful that the same will happen with ARInside. I see John making > updates when he has some time but can it survive as a one or two person > project? Personally I would love to help out and even installed a compiler > a while back to work on my limited C++ skills. Years, work, new laptop > without compiler, and grade school aged kids later I still have not > contributed any code to the project.**** > > **** > > Don't get me wrong, always having sanctioned/paid work (and a family) that > pushes aside community projects is not a bad problem to have.**** > > - Is it that we are all just too busy?**** > - Is it a ratio thing in that we are such a small community compared to > Java/C++/HTML/PowerShell/<insert platform of choice> communities that we > just don't have enough people to contribute a decent volume of projects? > **** > - Is it that we cannot share what we build because it was done on > somebody else's time/system?**** > - Would it help if there was an AR MSDN like subscription that we have > been asking for for a few years?**** > > > - I think this is related to the somebody else's time/system question. > I know I can't afford to develop AR Applications without my employer's > resources (servers, support contract).**** > - Now with today's virtualization, hosted technologies and the Suite > Stack Installer it would be easier than ever to provide this resource. > Maybe a downloadable VM appliance (ADDM anybody?). I understand there > are > licensing issues with distributing other companies' software (Windows/MS > SQL/Oracle). Maybe it is time for a MySQL version of AR? :)**** > > Hopefully now that we have a Community Ambassador we can get some of these > things moving. ;-)**** > > **** > > Jason**** > > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** > > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_**** > > ** ** > > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
