2.- the difference between ARSlist and Developer network is not about 
technologies, but people.

Jose,
For this point I 100% agree.  This is not to state that one is better than the 
other, but the ARSList, because of its delivery medium potentially reaches a 
different audience than that that can be reached by the BMC Communities, and 
the same is true in reverse.  As Carl mentioned, there are certain BMC people 
that don't even read the ARSList, but frequent the forums.  If all could be 
included in 'one place', but still exist separate...kinda like federating the 
CMDB...I don't know, but as another also said, it's good that there are more 
than one place you can go to get help.

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jose Huerta
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OT: ARSLIST Signal-to-noise ratio

** Just to clarify it, because seems that I didn't transmit the correct message.
1.- ARSlist is the best Remedy resource at this time.
2.- the difference between ARSlist and Developer network is not about 
technologies, but people.
3.- when I said about a change In the communication system, it doesn't mean 
that I don't accept the current system.

And finally, I don't see the relationship between forums and blogs & twitter.


El martes, 7 de agosto de 2012, Lee Cullom escribió:


        I'll add in as well... I tested out BMC communities last night for the 
first time... just to give it a shot.  I love the interface and the 
functionality, but it takes longer.  Email is more efficient.  Of course, you 
can go have the argument about efficiency and effectiveness, but... for my 
money... it's still ARSlist.  I think I'm becoming a grump about social media & 
technology these days in general.  I don't need to be buried in a sea of 128 
character nuggets of shallow thoughtless garbage... but... I
        
        While we're ranting... I've been playing around with ServiceNow 
extensively.  Let me say this.  It's WAY harder to customize than Remedy, it 
has less functionality (I know that can be appealing to some)... and the 
interface is simply not more attractive or more user-friendly than 7.6.4.  I 
know that BMC Remedy gets hammered all of the time, but I've got to give Doug 
M. & the gang their kudos.  ServiceNow is like Remedy Help Desk 4.0 without the 
simplicity of customization.
        
        
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        -----Original Message-----
        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pruitt, Christopher (Bank of America 
Account)
        Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:27 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: OT: ARSLIST Signal-to-noise ratio
        
        I would like to chime in here. Not all companies and Government 
Agencies will allow access to external sites like, Nabble, Twitter, Blogs, and 
so on. For example, if you happen to work for some US Government Agencies, like 
DOD, DOE, FBI, CIA, etc., most or all these types of sites are blocked for one 
reason or another and you have no access period. So I find the ability to 
receive ARSList emails as the best method of communication between fellow 
ARSList colleges to share ideas, concepts, seek assistance to find answers to 
pressing issues, etc.  I have worked for, or contracted to, some of this kinds 
of companies and Government Agencies over my 18+ years of working with the 
Action Request System and the ARSList has been a great resource for me for over 
the years and would hate to lose that access to such a great community of 
support and inspiration.
        
        Christopher Pruitt
        Business Consulting III
        Remedy Developer
        BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.6.04 HP Enterprises 
Services [email protected] www.hp.com
        
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        -----Original Message-----
        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
        Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 7:39 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: OT: ARSLIST Signal-to-noise ratio
        
        Jose,
        As Daniel mentioned...there have been efforts, and will continue to be 
efforts to move ARSList to forum (nabble anyone?), but as discussed, this IS 
the format for ARSList, and will likely stay that way.  Many people (even 
yourself) utilize both the BMC Communities as well as ARSList.  I find that, as 
you said, the list is the place with the most varied experience, and the most 
useful topics and responses...so I think I spend more time here than over at 
the communities...but I participate in both, so I would suggest participating 
where you want to participate, and not where you don't.  :)
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jose Huerta
        Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 3:42 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: OT: ARSLIST Signal-to-noise ratio
        
        **
        Hi Doug,
        
        First, Before beginning exposing my opinion, I want to state that the 
arslist is the most value Remedy resource for me at this time. Also, that the 
next is only my opinion and a constructive critic. I'm new to this community 
and I will try to do my best to follow the rules.
        
        Said this, I think that maybe Arslist is not on the best communication 
format available for sharing the knowledge. A community of 50 or 100 experts 
can be hold as an email group, but when the numbers go higher I think that 
web-based forums fit better for the purpose.
        
        Arslist is based on mail, and people apply on ARS list what they 
normally apply for the email. Than means the use of sophisticated signatures 
and include the complete reply of the previous email. You can teach people to 
not to do it, but it will last for a few days. This especially applies when 
people share their normal email account in ARSlist. I allways try to delete my 
corporate signature by my name and the address of my blog. But, sometimes I 
forget to do it, and the signature is sent. I will try to not to send it, but I 
surely know that sometimes I will forget and I will send it.
        
        About not including the reply: modern email softw



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