That does help.  I have been bitten a few times by emails being sent when
not expected to I like to be thorough :)

Jason


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Reiser, John J <[email protected]>wrote:

> **
>
> Jason,****
>
> I’m not sure if this helps but if you need the email engine active just
> disable it in the AR System Email Mailbox Configuration form.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Thank you,****
>
> ---
> John J. Reiser
> Remedy Developer/Administrator ****
>
> Senior Software Development Analyst
> Lockheed Martin - MS2
> The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
> Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by
> me ****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:02 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: ARSystem 8.1, install patch 1 with disabled
> email engine fails****
>
> ** **
>
> ** ****
>
> It is disabled because we don't want any emails to be sent.  The Email
> Engine will still automatically be started at times if the service is set
> to manual.  Often times we are working on a clone of a server and
> reconfiguring the email engine to work in its new environment is the last
> thing on the list.  We don't want emails going out until everything is
> completed.****
>
> ** **
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Joe D'Souza <[email protected]> wrote:***
> *
>
> ** ****
>
> Why did you disable the service? Wouldn’t just stopping the service, and
> have it set to Manual work for not letting it run on the server? Disabling
> the service perhaps puts some sort of a system lock on the service to
> perform a start of the service during the install to let the installer do
> what it has to and then stop it.****
>
>  ****
>
> Joe****
>
>  ****
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller
> *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 2:28 PM****
>
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: ARSystem 8.1, install patch 1 with disabled email engine
> fails****
>
>  ****
>
> ** ****
>
> It seems odd that the forms and related objects would not be imported just
> because the Email Engine isn't running?  I didn't think the Email Engine
> was use for much more that processing incoming and outgoing mail.****
>
>  ****
>
> We routinely install/upgrade/patch with the Email Engine service disabled.
>  We get a message stating the email engine wasn't enable or something like
> that at the end but never a failure.  I had one issue a year go upgrade AR
> 7.5 to AR 7.6.04 where the email service would get removed and not
> recreated.  I just added the service back after the install using the batch
> file.****
>
>  ****
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:13 AM, Hullule, Kiran <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> ** ****
>
> As far as I know , this is what might be happening , If this is an upgrade
> install , then in 8.1 email engine is a part of AR Components. 8.1 patch
> installer expect that existing email engine process has to be enable so
> that installer can restart it and import upgrade version of remedy email
> engine forms and related objects if disabled installer will fail to import
> the objects thus all further components install.. in 8.1 whatever
> components comes under AR components , they will be installed as a part of
> installer (you need them or not). Hence installer expect email engine be
> enabled.****
>
>  ****
>
> HTH****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jarl Grøneng
> *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 6:31 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: ARSystem 8.1, install patch 1 with disabled email engine
> fails****
>
>  ****
>
> ** ****
>
>  ****
>
> This is a part of the logfile.****
>
>  ****
>
> ---****
>
> (Sep 16 2013 02:58:12.676 PM
> +0200),INFO,com.bmc.install.product.arbase.statement.ARBaseStartEmailEngineStatement,
>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Starting Email Engine service...]}
> (Sep 16 2013 02:58:12.757 PM
> +0200),CONFIG,com.bmc.install.product.arbase.EmailEngineService,
>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Current BMC Remedy Email Engine - ARS 1
> state],Detail=[Stopped]}
> (Sep 16 2013 02:58:13.722 PM
> +0200),SEVERE,com.bmc.install.product.arbase.EmailEngineService,
>   LOG EVENT {Description=[Failed to start service BMC Remedy Email Engine
> - ARS 1],Detail=[The service has been disabled.]}
> (Sep 16 2013 02:58:13.731 PM
> +0200),CONFIG,com.bmc.install.product.arbase.EmailEngineService,
>   LOG EVENT {Description=[BMC Remedy Email Engine - ARS 1 error
> state],Detail=[Stopped]}
> (Sep 16 2013 02:58:13.731 PM
> +0200),SEVERE,com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.emailengine.EmailEnginePostInstallInstallationTask,
>   THROWABLE EVENT {Description=[Program execution failed],Detail=[Program
> not completed]},
>   Throwable=[java.io.IOException: The service has been disabled.
>
> com.bmc.install.utility.platform.windows.services.ExecutableInternalServicesHelperImpl.start(ExecutableInternalServicesHelperImpl.java:1752)
>
> com.bmc.install.utility.platform.windows.services.ServicesHelper.start(ServicesHelper.java:550)
>
> com.bmc.install.product.arbase.EmailEngineService.startWindowsService(EmailEngineService.java:295)
>
> com.bmc.install.product.arbase.EmailEngineService.start(EmailEngineService.java:66)
>
> com.bmc.install.product.arbase.statement.ARBaseStartEmailEngineStatement.execute(ARBaseStartEmailEngineStatement.java:140)
>
> com.bmc.install.utility.language.syntax.statement.extension.ExtensionStatement.execute(ExtensionStatement.java:289)
>   com.bmc.install.utility.language.syntax.Program.execute(Program.java:75)
>
> com.bmc.install.utility.language.runner.ProgramRunner.executeProgram(ProgramRunner.java:229)
>
> com.bmc.install.product.base.language.ProgramRunnerInstallationTask.executeProgram(ProgramRunnerInstallationTask.java:260)
>
> com.bmc.install.product.base.language.ProgramRunnerInstallationTask.execute(ProgramRunnerInstallationTask.java:94)
>
> com.bmc.install.product.arsuitekit.emailengine.EmailEnginePostInstallInstallationTask.execute(EmailEnginePostInstallInstallationTask.java:46)
>   com.bmc.install.task.InstallationTask.run(InstallationTask.java:93)
>   java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)]
> (Sep 16 2013 02:58:13.740 PM
> +0200),SEVERE,com.bmc.install.task.InstallationStateHelper,
>   LOG EVENT {Description=[BMC Remedy Action Request System
> failed],Detail=[productARSuiteKit]}
> (Sep 16 2013 02:58:13.742 PM
> +0200),CONFIG,com.bmc.install.task.InstallationPropertiesHelper,
>   LOG EVENT {Description=[SET PROPERTY
> FAILED_INSTALL_FEATURES],Detail=[productARSuiteKit]}****
>
> ---****
>
>  ****
>
> 2013/9/16 Hullule, Kiran <[email protected]>****
>
> ** ****
>
> Are you sure installation fails completely? Or is that just a warning
> message about email engine being disabled?****
>
> If installation failing then BMC need to test it , disabling email engine
> on startup should not cause ARS installation to fail.****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jarl Grøneng
> *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 6:18 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* ARSystem 8.1, install patch 1 with disabled email engine fails*
> ***
>
>  ****
>
> ** ****
>
> Hi,****
>
>  ****
>
> Running ARSystem 8.1, and with Email Engine disabled in startup. The
> install fail with error that says Email Engine is disabled.****
>
>  ****
>
> As designed?****
>
>  ****
>
> Win 2008 R2****
>
>  ****
>
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>
> J****
>
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