You do not need to buy the competitors product.

What happens is — people switch from “one product” to “another product” …
when they come to you — they tell you what they don’t like about their old
product - and what they liked about the old product.

It is quite simple really.

After awhile — you sort of care less what the competition does - and you do
your own thing.

The last thing I would want to do is read the docs of a competitor. (I
would rather watch a good hockey game — or catch up on sleep)


-John






On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Axton <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
> If that is the logic behind the policy, well, it is illogical.
>
> Any smart competitor is going to buy the product and understand it inside
> and out.  That's the nature of business today, particularly with
> technology.  All it serves to do is hurt the people that use the product.
>  I am sure their competition is laughing to themselves at the approach and
> hopes they keep it up.
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Jason Miller <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> **
>> Seems silly to me to believe the competition isn't gaining access to the
>> documentation.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Bennett, Craig <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Locked down – easier to deal with.
>>>
>>> Had one vendor who password protected the download of a password
>>> protected .zip archive of the pdf documentation which was then further
>>> locked down to prevent copy &  print. Now that is useless
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:30 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: Fast v.s. List Threads
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Thought I would share this on the List.  I put my ranty pants on for
>>> this one (no really, notice the tags):  Why do I have to log into
>>> bmc.docs.com almost every time I open 
>>> it?<https://communities.bmc.com/message/424094>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The recentish docs.bmc.com changes and need to enter credentials
>>> multiple times a day the has probably been experinece by many of you.
>>>  Apparently this is by design.  The response I received on a recent ticket
>>> for it:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> no secured system in the work arena will allow 1 day of session
>>> validity" and at this time no changes will be made.  (Login expiration is
>>> correctly configured. No secured system in the work will allow 1 day of
>>> session validity.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Multiple login is a known issue as we have different apps using
>>> different SSO solution. We are already working on that. You cannot have
>>> SSO/session active across multiple computers. This is basics of secured
>>> system..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I too am looking for an answer as to why is this documentation needs to
>>> be so secure?  SNOW doesn't secure their doc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Axton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Just to help (maybe) solve a long standing problem, let me point this
>>> out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I ran a Google search for a quote from the excerpt you cited from the
>>> product documentation:
>>>
>>>    "The fast queue handles the operations that generally run to
>>> completion quickly"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Guess what result did not show up on the first page of results... BMC's
>>> product documentation...  What logic they have to withhold their
>>> documentation from robots indexing it is beyond me.  If memory serves me
>>> correctly BMC has gone to lengths to ensure that APIs, documentation,
>>> javadoc, systematic workflow documentation, etc. are not available on the
>>> web.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe someone can help me understand the logic here because it eludes
>>> me...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 7:06 PM, William Rentfrow <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> This is straight out of the ARS configuration guide:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Fast queue*
>>>
>>> The fast queue handles the operations that generally run to completion
>>> quickly
>>>
>>> without blocking access to the database. The fast queue handles all
>>> server
>>>
>>> operations, except for:
>>>
>>> 􀂄 Administrative operations that restructure the database. These
>>> operations use
>>>
>>> the administration queue.
>>>
>>> 􀂄 The ARExport, ARGetListEntry, ARGetListEntryWithFields, and
>>>
>>> ARGetEntryStatistics, and other API calls (which use the list queue).
>>>
>>> For more information about API calls, see the *C API Reference*.
>>>
>>> One or more threads can serve the fast queue if a fast queue is
>>> configured. To
>>>
>>> configure a fast queue, see “Defining queues and configuring threads” on
>>>
>>> page 160*.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *List queue*
>>>
>>> The list queue handles AR System operations that might require
>>> significant time,
>>>
>>> block access to the database, or both. Examples of these operations
>>> include
>>>
>>> ARExport, ARGetListEntry, ARGetListEntryWithFields, and
>>>
>>> ARGetEntryStatistics.
>>>
>>> One or more threads can serve the list queue if a list queue is
>>> configured. To
>>>
>>> configure a list queue, see “Defining queues and configuring threads”
>>> on page 160.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Fremont
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:40 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Fast v.s. List Threads
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What are the main differences between the two? I can't any docs about
>>> these threads.
>>>
>>> Which one handle the requests from users via Mid-tier, or WUT clients.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
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