RaM;

One extremely significant one:


Asssam has the most to lose. That simple!

c-da













At 12:03 PM -0500 9/12/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>C'da,
>
>>I am sorry I cannot take your criticisms here as  either objective or
>serious, >primarily because they are connected with an attempt to
>politically link it with an >Assamese inability to  govern itself.
>
>Even if one were to set aside the question of inability (or ability)
>of governance, all this time, I have always felt that the River
>Linking saga had political conotations.
>
>I am not saying that there shouldn't, but to say or think that
>political overtones are one-sided is simply not true.
>
>China, B'desh, India, states within India, as well as different
>factions within states all seem to have some political interest with
>RL.
>
>Whats the difference?
>
>
>On 9/12/05, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  Rajen:
>>
>>  I am sorry I cannot take your criticisms here as  either objective or
>>  serious, primarily because they are connected with an attempt to politically
>>  link it with an Assamese inability to  govern itself.
>>
>>  That may be true of its establishment, but is not an universal truth. It is
>>  a back-door attempt at asserting something which is un-defendable otherwise.
>>
>>  c
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>>
>>  At 10:22 AM -0500 9/12/05, Rajen Barua wrote:
>>  > You are 100% right--nobody discussed in the media YET..
>>  Is not this pathetic for the Hobo Diok Assamese.
>>  Nobody discussed this in the media YET (2005)
>>  When they will discuss this.
>> 
>>  I also have not seen any serious discussion on the Illegal Immigration to
>>  Assam.
>>  Please remember it is the Chief Election Commissioner of India who pointed
>>  out Hey Assamese, you have a problem, After that I have not seen any
>>  professional discussion or study by the Assamese
>>  I see Assamese crying without even knowing the problem.
>> 
>>  Two of the major problems of Assam: Illegal immigration and the Brahmaputra
>>  flood, and Assamese are yet to discuss scientifically!!.
>>  Whither Assam and the Assamese?.
>>  Hobo Diok
>>  Rajen
>> 
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  Cc: <[email protected]>
>>  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:18 AM
>>  Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
>>
>>  > Baruah Sahab,
>>  > You are 100% right--nobody discussed in the media YET..
>>  > Yours truly said this all along 1970 on--but unteacheable Sorkaris won't
>>  > listen.
>>  > After my brother Chan introduced me onto NASA sites I cofirmed  MY
>>  intuition
>>  > through Floodtime and dry-season    ISS Photos.
>>  > Basics on "Solid-carrying capacity of fluids" and of "Stream vs
>>  > Sedimentation " confirm my understanding that * all River Islands will
>>  keep
>>  > growing with passing years
>>  >                            * all meanders will erode and collapse /advance
>>  > inland at convex apices.
>>  > The answer is a "First-ever correctioning". Will behave good for millenia.
>>  > Presented this to Govt of Assam to present to Manmohan.
>>  > Texas Water Expert and his IAS In- Law and others strangled my
>>  presentation.
>>  > They may not have the last laugh.
>>  >
>>  > mm
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > >From: "Barua25" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  > >To: "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  > >CC: <[email protected]>
>>  > >Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
>>  > >Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:34:04 -0500
>>  > >
>>  > > > Do I see Sarcasm here?
>>  > >
>>  > >No I am 100% honest.
>  > > >In the last 50 years of my experience, I have not seen a thing in any
>>  > >Assamese media or any NGO discussing this.
>>  > >Neither I have seen anything in this net.
>>  > >I saw lots of discussion on River Linking Projects for saving Narmada etc
>>  > >but not a thing on Brahamaputra.
>>  > >Again my question is there an authentic report on Brhamaputra Flood
>>  Control
>>  > >which is accepted by the scientific community or is it still under
>  > debate?
>>  > >  The next question will be if there is an professional report accepted
>>  by
>>  > >the scientific co community, why it is not Being implemented a or why
>>  there
>>  > >is no movement or lobby?
>>  > >What is lacking?
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > >Rajen
>>  > >
>>  > >----- Original Message -----
>>  > >From: "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  > >Cc: <[email protected]>
>>  > >Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:09 PM
>>  > >Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > > > <<Professional Report with feasibility study >>>
>>  > > >
>>  > > >
>>  > > > Do I see Sarcasm here?
>>  > > > You need to visit me  here for basic hydraulics.
>>  > > >
>>  > > > Re the Captioned items you will find loads quoted in Mishraji's
>>  > >hilarious
>>  > > > accounts of Govt vs Floods
>>  > > >
>>  > > > mm
>>  > > >
>>  > > >
>>  > > >
>>  > > > >From: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  > > > >To: "mc mahant"
>>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  > > > >CC: <[email protected]>
>>  > > > >Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
>>  > > > >Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:06:48 -0500
>>  > > > >
>>  > > > >  If and when The Luit is dug up rationally we will get 15 Lakh Ha
>>  new
>>  > > > >/Virgin
>>  > > > > > farmland with
>>  > > > > > massive crop yields.Communize these new Lands
>>  > > > > > mm
>>  > > > >
>>  > > > >Dear MC:
>>  > > > >I wonder if there is any professional Report with feasibility study
>>  on
>>  > >the
>>  > > > >above proposal for public knowledge for ignorant guys like me.
>>  > > > >How do I believe this is not another RIL scheme? Is there any lobby
>>  > >going
>>  > > > >on? How do I believe it is not another slogan?
>>  > > > >Rajen
>>  > > > >
>>  > > > >----- Original Message -----
>>  > > > >From: "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  > > > >Cc: <[email protected]>
>>  > > > >Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:41 AM
>>  > > > >Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
>>  > > > >
>>  > > > >
>>  > > > > > Anupam,
>>  > > > > > You discovered SCORES of Islands. There are Thousands.
>>  > > > > > Mias went there because your ancestors did not know soil nutrients
>>  > > > >science.
>>  > > > > > Mias also know nothing of that. They  have only these as their"
>>  > > > > > Lebensraum".How did they get in?
>>  > > > > > Majuli is no Island. Come to me -I shall show at Guahati
>>  > > > > > If you are in USA you can see with Chan Mahanta
>>  > > > > > If and when The Luit is dug up rationally we will get 15 Lakh Ha
>>  new
>>  > > > >/Virgin
>>  > > > > > farmland with
>>  > > > > > massive crop yields.Communize these new Lands
>>  > > > > > mm
>>  > > > > >
>>  > > > > >
>>  > > > > >
>>  > > > > >
>>  > > > > >
>>  > > > > > >From: "mc mahant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  > > > > > >CC: [email protected]
>>  > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
>>  > > > > > >Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 07:03:29 +0530
>>  > > > > > >
>>  > > > > >
>>  > > > > > >
>>  > > > > > >
>>  > > > > > >
>>  > > > > > >
>>  > > > > > > >From: anupom rajkhowa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  > > > > > > >To: [email protected]
>>  > > > > > > >Subject: [Assam] OUR RIVER ISLANDS ARE GONE!!
>>  > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 11:44:52 -0700 (PDT)
>>  > > > > > > >
>>  > > > > > > >I happen to travel from Dibrugarh to Tezpur by motorboat on the
>>  > > > >mighty
>>  > > > > > > >Brahmaputra some time back on a documentary assignment. You
>>  will
>>  > >have
>>  > > > >to
>>  > > > > > > >see to believe the immense beauty and massiveness of the
>>  natural
>>  > > > >river
>>  > > > > > > >islands. Assam is I think the only such place in India with
>>  such
>>  > >a
>>  > > > >huge
>>  > > > > > > >natural treasure. But beauty and richness apart, what shocked
>  > me
>>  > >was
>>  > > > >the
>>  > > > > > > >unending presence of Bangladeshi illegal immigrants on most of
>>  > >the
>>  > > > >bigger
>>  > > > > > > >islands including Majuli. And trust me, there are scores of
>>  such
>>  > > > >large
>>  > > > > > > >sized islands. As these islands are hidden from the mainland,
>>  > >these
>>  > > > > > >illegal
>>  > > > > > > >immigrants go unnoticed. And I was shocked to learn that most
>  > of
>>  > >them
>>  > > > >are
>>  > > > > > > >voters. These islands are very rich with natural manure and as
>>  a
>>  > > > >result
>>  > > > > > > >yield very rich organic crops. And the products are sold in the
>>  > > > >mainland.
>>  > > > > > > >
>>  > > > > > > >Bangladeshi problem is the mother of all problems in Assam.
>>  What
>>  > >is
>>  > > > >the
>>  > > > > > > >solution? Another andolan?? But where is the leader?? I wonder
>>  > >what
>>  > > > >ULFA
>>  > > > > > > >plans on this front. But they have already made Dhaka their
>>  > >capital
>>  > > > >!!
>>  > > > > > >What
>>  > > > > > > >to do??
>>  > > > > > > >
>>  > > > > > > >
>>  > > > > > > >Anupom Rajkhowa
>>  > > > > > > >
>>  > > > > > > >
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