Hi Mayur:
I reserve my right to reply to posts I choose to.
I also do not read everyone's posts. Don't have either the time or
the desire to. I can easily tell who is running with what agenda.
And of those that I read,. not everything is deserving of a response.
For many reasons. Namely, in no particular order:
1: Utterly dumb.
2: So ignorant, that it is no use replying to.
3: Disingenuous arguments.
4: People with an agenda that is abhorrent to me.
5: Stupid assumptions.
6: Absurd claims.
7: Comments that have little purpose other than to assert ones
own righteousness, how prescient they are and so forth.
8: Pseudo-philosophical gobledy-gook.
So on and so forth.
Also, as much as I try to respond to people's questions or
challenges, I get tired of obliging because my questions and
challenges rarely get replied to.
Take your own comments for example. I challenged you in my last post about YOUR
SELECTIVE outrage at innocent lives taken. What is your reply? You
try to change the subject.
Rajib attempted to equate the thousands of lives of Assam youth taken
by the Indian army, to the mindless bombers at Delhi the other day
Is it an applicable analogy? Is it a good faith argument? Rajib may
or may not have the mental capacity to differentiate the two. But I
sure hope you do.
Having said that I agree with your proposition that there ought to be
a a free and fair referendum , after a period of unrestricted public
discourse and debate, to decide what the people of Assam really want.
Without that, the claims and counter claims mean NOTHING.
Utpal and others challenges PCG to prove that they represent Assam.
Why? Obviously because he/they believe it does not. How do they know
that? Are they more informed than the people? You tell us.
Reasonable people could surmise that Assam's establishment and the
outsider controlled business interests do not identify with the PCG.
Is it a surprise? Heck no. Why? Because it does not want to have its
golden goose killed either by a new independent Assam government, or
a REFORMED autonomous Assam.
But is such an attitude something you or I ought to support?
> >We must examine the pros and cons of everything before
>misleading people by excessive lionisation of a few
>individiuals and romanticisation of the issues raised
>by them.
*** I agree. So why do you indulge in it :-)?
But seriously, I never attempt to TELL anyone anything and expect
others to accept them because I SAY SO. I make every effort, even at
the risk of being too verbose, to explain my reasons. Therefore I
have absolutely no qualms about anyone being misled by my arguments.
If some are persuaded to my points of view, they are so because they
understand and accept the logic/reasons. Not because they are stupid
like you insinuate. On the other hand, those of you who make
superficial judgements, without ever attempting to explain your
positions, are the ones with a closed mind, smug in your
self-righteousness, and oblivious of the ignorance with which you all
make those judgements.
cm
At 8:42 AM -0800 11/2/05, mayur bora wrote:
>Dear Mahanta da
>
>Thanks for the reply which was on expected lines. You
>can't compare Assam with Kashmir where the situation
>at the ground level is entirely different. The
>struggle there is much more broadbased and it has
>strong religious overtones as well as underpinnings of
>mass support. I can bet that not even 10% of our
>people want secession from India. As I told you
>earlier also, I am game for a plebiscite preceded by a
>healthy and comprehensive debate covering the entire
>gamut of issues.
>
>I have observed that your response is often selective.
>I am eager to know what would be your reply to the
>points raised by Rajen da, Arindam and Tridip in the
>last few days. How you would like to counter my point
>in the last mail regarding 'sacrifice for a cause' ?
>
>We must examine the pros and cons of everything before
>misleading people by excessive lionisation of a few
>individiuals and romanticisation of the issues raised
>by them.
>
>Bye for now
>
>Mayur
>Chandigarh
>
>--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mayur:
>>
>>
>> First off, your and others like you who are
>> unwilling or
>> intellectually unable to grasp and acknowledge that
>> the violence
>> spawned by Kashmir has a reason, has a clear and
>> well documented
>> history of its origins and its steady worsening;
>> leaves you, Rajib
>> Das and others with no credibility at all.
>>
>> The bomb blasts at Delhi designed to kill and maim
>> civilians are
>> unconscionable.
>>
>> But that does not absolve India of its complicity in
>> producing such
>> mindless violence that has gotten bloodier by the
>> decades. And the
>> blood of the innocents are on the hands of those who
>> were unable or
>> unwilling to raise their voices against their
>> national policies.
>>
>> How does one then explain the heart-bleed only when
>> innocent deaths
>> strike close to home? Is it not the lust for
>> real-estate over people?
>> Have you shed a tear over the 200 thousand Kashmiri
>> dead? Are they
>> not people? Were they all blood-thirsty killers that
>> deserve to be
>> mowed down by Indian guns: Men, women, children and
>> the aged and the
>> infirm alike? How do their humanity continue to
>> escape you?
>>
>>
>> > >They will try to
>> >justify by insinuating to India's obsession with
>> 'real estate'.
>>
>>
>> *** JUSTIFY, heh-heh! Trying to spin out of an
>> intellectual bind, aren't you?
>>
>> But words will not let you off the hook. If it is
>> not me, someone
>> else, somewhere else, will point out WHY it
>> continues to happen. You
>> cannot run away from what you know!
>>
>> And I will stand corrected, when you or anybody else
>> can explain how
>> it is anything but lust for the real-estate minus
>> the people who call
>> it home.
>>
>>
>> cm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 2:25 AM -0800 11/1/05, mayur bora wrote:
>> >Well said Rajib. It was extremely heart-wrenching.
>> I
>> >read the tragic incident of two Assamese families
>> on
>> >yesterday's internet edition of AT and Dainik
>> >Agradoot. But people whom you are trying to address
>> >with the example of this unfortunate event will
>> never
>> >acknowledge the disastrous effects and futility of
>> >this kind of mindless violence. They will try to
>> >justify by insinuating to India's obsession with
>> 'real
>> >estate'.
>> >
>> >You can wake up people who are sleeping.
>> >You can't wake up people who are pretending to be
>> >asleep.
>> >
>> >Most of the people who are supporting ULFA have got
>> >their own vested interests. For the time being, I
>> >don't mind giving benefit of doubt to a few netters
>> >who are supporting ULFA due to my firm belief in
>> the
>> >adage that no one can fool all the people for all
>> the
>> >time.
>> >
>> >As regards the desire to sacrifice life for a
>> cause,
>> >less said about it is better. From the early
>> nineties,
>> >we have seen how our guys start confessing their
>> >secrets as soon as they are nabbed by police or
>> army.
>> >Compare this with LTTE guerillas. Some of our boys
>> >don't know for what they are fighting. Most of them
>> >are not convinced of the cause. It is like an easy
>> >status symbol. Of course, I don't rule out
>> exception.
>> >
>> >I can only hope that vested interests of a section
>> of
>> >the people will take a backseat in the greater
>> >interest of peace and sanctity of human life.
>> >
>> >Mayur
>> >Chandigarh
>> >--- Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Those who are ready to give up their lives first
>> >> take
>> >> others' lives. Here is one family's story from
>> the
>> >> Delhi bomb blasts:
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>http://www.telegraphindia.com/1051101/asp/nation/story_5424590.asp
>> >>
>> >> Wonder whether we should be putting a halo
>> around
>> >> these guys heads? Or necks?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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