Dear Barua,
>It is because of our caste system that sports never became a >national event in India like that in Greece.
I was with you all this way - but now you have lost me. What in the world has the caste system to do with playing chess or wrestling (like Greece)?
Sports did and does exist in India. From the very ancient times sports played a huge part - malla judho, hunting (sports), kings also played games/sports riding elephants and did hold gynastic competitions.
Yes, of course they did not play tennis or cricket or skating - but these were all western concepts. The Japanese/Chinese have sumo wrestling and judo etc.
But for the life of me, I can't name original sports/games from China and Japan or even countries in Africa.
Lets face it, most of the games came from variations of the Greek Olympiads and Rome (parallel bars, Roman rings), and many of the modern sports came either from England or Eastern Europe.
Is it because of the caste system that countries like Japan, China, or from Africa have not developed sports?
--Ram
On 5/15/06, Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think a great part, I don't know exactly how much, is due to our undermining of sports by the society. Our society probably value a good Cricket player more than a football player or a wrestler or gymnastic. Also whether we like to admit it or not, our caste system has something to play (a Brahmin Chess player or a Cricket player I can visualize but a Brahmin wrestler or mountain climber?). It is because of our caste system that sports never became a national event in India like that in Greece. Keeping these under the carpet however, we can always come up with lot of excuses such as the Olympic is a Capitalist game etc.RB----- Original Message -----From: Ram SarangapaniTo: Barua25Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:35 PMSubject: Re: [Assam] EVEREST HISTORY time line
Hi Barua,That was extempore (usually most of my postings are). As far as becoming a politician, I don't think I have the stomach nor the usual turpitude that goes along with that profession.
The point though is that one sees many countries that really don't do well in the tough endurance sports because of the huge amounts involved in training.I think it was the wrestling team that India sent to the Olympics. A couple of them were thrown out after drug tests. One other point, usually Indians do not usually posses the physical characteristics/strength as most other countries do.But I do agree, the Indian contigent at the Olympics is normally made up of a few atheletes, a bunch of 'officials', their wives, throw in a minister or two (and their wives) - that is the team.--RamOn 5/15/06, Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Ram:If you did that extempore, you did real well because I was thinking I got you. This goes to say that you will make a good politician compared to our desi lot who cannot answer anythging to the Press.RB----- Original Message -----From: Ram SarangapaniTo: Rajen BaruaSent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:58 PMSubject: Re: [Assam] EVEREST HISTORY time line
Hi Barua,I will try and get the other links about the expeditions. One reason could be that there have been some recent climbs.>We Indians must have an asnwer why we Indians are not good >sportsmen. ...>We no longer can give the excuse that Indians are poor.The only countries that one hears about endurance sports are usually from a few countries.USA, Russia, East European countries, England, China, Japan, Canada, etc.I don't hear of Scotland, the Netherlands, Norway, most of Africa, most of Latin America (except Brazil/Argentina - football).Such sports require, excellent training from a very young age, excellent facilities, and great trainers. India does not have a good sprorts infrastructure. Games like cricket and football guarantee immediate ticket sales (in volume), plus great coverage returns.Other sports like figure skating/gymnastics etc, won't bring enough returns to sustain them - unless there is a champion in the midst.Even in tennis, India does have the potential, but the best training facilities in the world are in the US - all countries send the best to the tennis ranches in the US (mostly in Texas) to train, and so it is with gymnastics (in Houston).Lastly (but not the least), politicians often get to choose who is represented in foreign trips for players, trainers, and they more often than not choose third rung potentials.--Ram
On 5/15/06, Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Ram:If this site is correct history of expedition to Everest, I don't see any Indian except for the 3 expeditions during 1960 to 1965.I see some Sherpas though.Would you investigate why your records are not listed here?One of the report must be wrong. We must establish the facts.If the above report is correct, one can see from records that an Indian is not too much of a climber which is however not a news.Cricket, Chess etc as you know donot need much physical strength or stamina.I donot know about Kabbadi. I don't think it is even known in places like Assam, Bengal, Bihar etc.We are talking about games and sports like Football, Hockey, Volleyball, Basketball, Long Jump, High jump, 100 meter run, Marathon run, Swiming, Biking, Mountain climbing etc.We Indians must have an asnwer why we Indians are not good sportsmen.We no longer can give the excuse that Indians are poor.RB----- Original Message -----From: Barua25Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:40 AMSubject: [Assam] EVEREST HISTORY time line
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