Good to hear from you Ganesh. But I don't share your optimism, because without 
functioning institutions in place, a watchdog 
or watchdogs will eventually become lapdogs. Just look at CBI. 

A government is only as good as the people who make it up. Until such time as 
able and people with integrity could not 
become a significant part of governance, it is doomed to be what Indian 
governance is.

c-da






On Apr 17, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Ganesh Bora wrote:

> C' da,
> 
> The Jan Lokpal may or may not work! But it scared the corrupt MMS government. 
> If Jan Lokpal does not work, some other Watch dog will be born! But atleast 
> for some time, government will think (or feel) that some one is watching 
> them! This is the beginning of the end of "Governing without Accountability"!
> 
> Ganesh Bora
> Fargo, ND
> 
> 
> 
> From: Chan Mahanta <[email protected]>
> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 8:49:34 AM
> Subject: [Assam] Will the Jan Lokpal Bill Work?
> 
> 
> Prashant Bhushan is a credible person on these issues. But will the 'Jan 
> Lokpal ' thing work? What do you think?
> 
> I don't think it will. It may have some value temporarily. Something a newly 
> independent state may employ to get
> its bearing, like I proposed for an independent Assam. But until such time 
> India reforms and fixes its broken,
> dysfunctional system, it will be about as effective as all the other, much 
> hyped schemes, programs, laws 
> acronyms and whatchmacallits -- like for example Panchayats, Fast Track 
> Courts, RTI, CVC and many others.
> 
> Why ?
> 
> For the simple reason that the dysfunctional system will continue to keep 
> producing the corrupt and the inept.
> How will the JL, which is designed only to look after the CENTER - won't have 
> anything to do with the states,
> keep the floodgates closed and for how long? That raises another assamnet 
> specific question to this 'odhom':
> I was under the impression that it is Assam, and a few other states are the 
> truly corrupt entities, not the Center,
> not the 'prospering' states and so forth. Where is the disconnect?
> 
> The notion is akin to treating Typhoid with fever control medication. 
> 
> What is amazing is that no one NO ONE, is talking about fixing the broken 
> system. Why? Any thoughts?
> 
> Also look up  http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271406. Some very 
> fgood points raised in this.
> 
> cm
> 
> 
> http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271389
> 
> OPINION
> Removing Misconceptions
> Addressing some of the issues and concerns raised by a number of commentators 
> on the provisions in the draft of Jan Lokpal Bill
> PRASHANT BHUSHAN
> A number of commentators have raised issues about the provisions in the draft 
> of Jan Lokpal Bill, whether it will be effective instrument for checking 
> corruption and about the manner in which pressure was brought to bear on the 
> government through Shri Anna Hazare’s fast. It is therefore, important to 
> understand the provisions of the bill and how it seeks to set up an effective 
> institution to deal with corruption.
> 
> Corruption in India has grown to alarming proportions; because of policies 
> which have created enormous incentives for its proliferation, coupled with 
> the lack of an effective institution which can investigate and prosecute the 
> corrupt. Under the garb of liberalization and privatisation, we have adopted 
> policies by which natural resources and public assets (such as mineral 
> resources, oil & gas, land, spectrum, etc) have been allowed to be privatised 
> without any transparency or public auction. Hundreds of MoUs have been signed 
> overnight, by governments with private corporations, leasing out large tracts 
> of land rich in mineral resources, forests and water, which allow those 
> corporations to take away and sell these resources by paying the government a 
> royalty which is usually less than 1% of the value of resources. The 
> Karnataka Lokayukta Justice Santosh Hegde, has pointed out in a report on 
> mining in Karnataka, that the profit margins in such ventures, is often more 
> than 90%; thus leaving a huge scope for bribe giving and creating huge 
> incentives for corruption. The same thing happened when Mr A. Raja gave away 
> spectrum without a public auction to companies at less than 10% of its market 
> price. Private monopolies in water/electricity distribution, airports, etc; 
> have been allowed to be created where huge and unconscionable profits can be 
> made by corrupting the regulator and allowing the private monopoly to charge 
> predatory prices. Tens of thousands of hectares of land have been given away 
> to corporations for commercialisation in the guise of airport development, 
> construction of highways, SEZs etc. at prices which are less than 10% of the 
> value of the those tracts of land.
> 
> Apart from creating huge incentives for corruption, such policies have 
> resulted in involuntary displacement of lakhs of the poorest people, 
> rendering them on brink of starvation and forcing many of them to join the 
> Maoists. They have also stripped the country of its natural resources (a good 
> deal of which are exported), destroyed the environment and most ominously, 
> resulted in creating monster corporations, who are so powerful and 
> influential that they have come to influence and virtually control all 
> institutions of power as we see from the Radia tapes. In fact it is the 
> corporations which have become the fountainhead of corruption, with ministers 
> and public servants having become their agents.
> 
> While adopting policies which create huge incentives for corruption, we have 
> not set up an effective institution to check corruption, investigate and 
> prosecute the corrupt and bring them to justice. The CBI continues to be 
> under the administrative control of the government, which is seen as 
> fountainhead of corruption. Thus no action is usually taken by the CBI to 
> effectively investigate high level corruption unless once in a while, the 
> court forces its hand. Often, we see the CBI behave in a corrupt manner with 
> no other institution, to investigate its own corruption. The Central 
> Vigilance Commission (CVC) which is supposed to supervise the CBI has failed 
> to act, since its own appointment process is riddled with conflict of 
> interest. The Prime Minister, Home Minister and Leader of Opposition (who has 
> been a minister and hopes to become Prime Minister one day) want to avoid 
> their own accountability and are thus interested in weak and pliable persons 
> to man an institution which is expected to supervise the CBI. Moreover the 
> CVC and CBI have to seek government sanctions for investigation and 
> prosecutions, which is usually not given in high level corruption. The CVC 
> depends on vigilance officers in various government departments who are often 
> middle level officers from same department and cannot be expected to exercise 
> vigilance over their bosses who write their confidential reports. The 
> judiciary, which must try and convict the offenders, has also become 
> dysfunctional and also corrupt due to lack of accountability of the higher 
> judiciary.
> 
> The draft Jan Lokpal bill seeks to create an institution which will be 
> largely independent of those that it seeks to police, and which will have 
> effective powers of investigation and prosecuting all public servants 
> (including ministers, MPs, the bureaucracy, judges etc.) and those others 
> found guilty of corrupting them. Since corruption also involves misconduct 
> and gives rise to grievances, the draft bill also proposes that the Lokpal 
> will supervise the machinery for disciplinary proceedings against government 
> servants (the Vigilance Department) as well as the machinery for redressal of 
> grievances. Thus misconduct by government servants and grievances would also 
> come under an independent authority rather than under the government where it 
> has become ineffective due to conflicts of interest. In addition it has also 
> been proposed that if the Lokpal finds that a contract is being given for 
> corrupt considerations, it can order the stoppage of the contract. It cannot 
> otherwise interfere with government decisions or policy.
> 
> It has been said that this will create a supercop with enormous powers and no 
> accountability. There is a misconception that the Lokpal would have judicial 
> powers as well. There is no such thing in the bill. The need of the hour is 
> to have an effective policing body which can investigate and prosecute the 
> high and mighty without interdiction from the very people who need to be 
> prosecuted. Moreover, the bill seeks to make the Lokpal accountable in many 
> ways. Firstly, it is mandated to function transparently so that everything 
> related to its functioning is known to the people (without compromising the 
> investigation itself). Other exemptions from disclosure provided in the RTI 
> Act could also be included. Secondly, the orders of the Lokpal would be 
> subject to Judicial review in the High Courts and the Supreme Court. Lastly, 
> the members of the Lokpal would be removable for misconduct by a 5 member 
> bench of the Supreme Court.
> 
> There has also been criticism of the Selection Committee and selection 
> process of the Lokpal. Given the erosion in the integrity of most of our 
> state institutions, it was thought that the best bet was to have a 
> broad-based selection committee and build in transparency and some public 
> participation in the selection process, while trying to keep out those 
> persons who are most likely to be within the ambit of the investigations of 
> the Lokpal. That is why ministers were kept out in the draft bill, though one 
> criticism has been that this shows a contempt for democracy. We have seen how 
> the “democratically elected” PM, HM and leaders of opposition have normally 
> selected weak and pliable CVCs. So the draft bill proposes a selection 
> committee of Lok Sabha Speaker, Chairman of the Rajya Sabha, CAG, CEC, the 
> two senior most judges of the Supreme Court, two senior most Chief Justices 
> of the High Court, the Chairman of the NHRC and the outgoing members of the 
> Lokpal. However, this selection committee would certainly be discussed and 
> perhaps improved during further public consultations and discussions within 
> the drafting committee, which will now take place.
> 
> It has also been said that putting grievance redressal on the plate of the 
> Lokpal would make its work unmanageable. Though the Lokpal would only 
> reorganize and supervise the grievance redressal machinery (rather than 
> dealing with each grievance itself), this is also an issue, which would be 
> discussed openly by the Committee. By the next week a website for formally 
> taking in all the opinions and suggestions on the Jan Lokpal bill will be set 
> up and announced. We would welcome people to read, understand and send their 
> comments on it, which will be taken due note of.
> 
> One must not however be under any illusion that the Lokpal law itself would 
> solve the problem of corruption. Unless we also tackle and change the 
> policies which are creating enormous incentives for corruption and creating 
> monster corporations, which become too powerful for any institution to 
> control, our fight against corruption will be incomplete. The judiciary too 
> is in need of comprehensive reforms. But, an independent, credible and 
> empowered Lokpal is certainly a necessary, though not a sufficient, condition 
> for effectively controlling corruption. Let us work to at least put that in 
> place.
> 
> One of the original drafters of the Jan Lokpal Bill, Supreme Court lawyer 
> Prashant Bhushan is also one of the five nominees of Shri Anna Hazare on the 
> government notified Joint Drafting Committee to prepare a draft of the Lok 
> Pal Bill.
> 
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