On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 23:05 +0200, Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
> >If your code has anything to do with ASSP's code, then it must be
> >published or provided back to the original project, ASSP in this case.
> 
> I will not go on to discuss this,

Not really trying to start any drama or etc.

>  but I understand now better why
> there was no developer any longer when I picked up the abandoned
> project.

Well that can be for many of reasons. People lose interest, move on, get
busy with other things, so on. In many cases I am sure it's because it
was working fairly well for a quite many. Unless there were
vulnerabilities or security issues, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

I have run ASSP for many years, > 3. I stopped following development for
over a year or more. Partly due to lack of it, but also due to it
working so well. Much better than any other alternative.

> Amazing.

I am not trying to question or discredit your work or effort. It's
greatly appreciated.

It's not like I do not volunteer my time, code, and effort. I did not
become a Gentoo developer out of choice, but more out of need. To fill a
void, and get packages I needed updated and etc. Which Gentoo is a NPO
and everyone doing anything for Gentoo is a volunteer, no one gets paid.

While I can't save the world, I am sure in most cases if a project,
product, or etc is that important. If one steps down, at some point in
time, another usually will come along to fill that void. Happens all the
time, the larger the community, more important the application or wider
use, the faster a replacement tends to come along.

Just as you did when you revived the "abandoned" project. Stale if
anything, but I would hardly say abandoned. Docs were good, release was
good. Weren't to many new features, and sure there was much to be
improved upon. But community surely did not abandon it, just weren't
improving it.

After I realized ASSP was being developed again, I spent a good deal of
time working with an outside contributor to get ASSP packaged and
available on Gentoo. Mostly for my needs but for others as well.

Most new features I welcome, but seems documentation was sketchy on the
new stuff. I had many people reading older docs on Gentoo, and asking me
questions I could not answer. Partly for that reason, I chilled out on
promoting it on Gentoo. Otherwise I would have to spend more of my time
and make documents.

I have not had a chance to review 1.3.1 or package it. Partly because
the new features made an already highly effective ASSP even more so.
So no real motivation to upgrade it, unless it fixes bugs or security
issues. But it's on my list.

FYI, I use ASSP in front of my SMTP server for 10 domains and ~50 users.
Not to mention outside clients that run their own SMTP servers, where
ASSP is installed as well.

-- 
William L. Thomson Jr.
Gentoo/Java

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