I am fairly sure that ANI cannot be spoofed. Thanks, Steve Totaro
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Miles Scruggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't see how that wouldn't apply since there still exists a calling > party and receiving party, and carrier. Since the question was of > spoofing it wouldn't make much sense to think of spoofing happening on > the receiving end. > > You simply have no assurance that the ANI/CID you are receiving is in > fact valid. It is suppose to be but that is as far as you can go. > > On May 9, 2008, at 8:30 AM, Steve Totaro wrote: >> Oh, I was speaking of inbound only LD (toll free) PRIs. Maybe I am >> way off topic for this thread. >> >> Thanks, >> Steve Totaro >> >> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Miles Scruggs >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> This belief is limited to your experience with PRIs. When you obtain >>> SIP termination services from ATT, Verizon, or Level 3. They have no >>> way of verifying what ANI/CID you are sending. It doesn't matter if >>> you are calling 800s or not, they bill it back to the CID that you >>> pass (not to say that your carrier won't bill you as well since they >>> see the calls go through their switches, but they more than likely >>> won't see the reciprocal billing from the receiving LEC). Want a >>> proof of concept? Setup an account with a small terminating provider >>> like Junction networks, send all your calls out with the ANI of your >>> cell phone. Last step will be to recoil in horror next time you open >>> your cell phone bill. I'm not saying they can't track you down, or >>> trace abuse back to you, since everything is logged, but very little >>> verification happens. >>> >>> If you are sending thousands of calls per day to a trunk that is >>> outbound only, from thousands of different parties, you don't have to >>> delve into to much logic to see the obvious result. >>> >>> Cheer >>> >>> Miles >>> >>> On May 9, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Steve Totaro wrote: >>>> I may be wrong here but I do not believe that ANI can be spoofed. >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_identification >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Steve Totaro >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:03 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> Mike... The reason why collection services, skip tracers and >>>>> private >>>>> investigators ask to call back on their 800 toll free is simply >>>>> because you >>>>> can not spood your ANI to a 800 #. >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk >>>>> Discussion<[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] ANI >>>>> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:29:48 -0500 >>>>> >>>>> Is the CID of a call to a toll free number really the ANI, >>>>> therefore not >>>>> spoofed or blocked? >>>>> >>>>> Someone who's opinion I respect said it generally is, but he wasn't >>>>> sure. >>>>> Since I have a potential customer coming to me with an ANI >>>>> requirement, not >>>>> a CID requirement, I figured I should make sure. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api- >>>>>> digital.com-- >>>>>> >>>>>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>>>>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >>>>> >>>>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>>>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >>>> >>>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >>> >>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >> >> asterisk-biz mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
