Like I said earlier, Asterisk can take ANI, it just takes some clues and work.
Thanks, Steve Totaro On 5/9/08, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, it wasn't really of spoofing, perse, but if the CNID received on a > toll free is the ANI, since toll free gets passed ANI, but from what I can > see it is not. > > > ---------- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Miles Scruggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] ANI > > >>I don't see how that wouldn't apply since there still exists a calling >> party and receiving party, and carrier. Since the question was of >> spoofing it wouldn't make much sense to think of spoofing happening on >> the receiving end. >> >> You simply have no assurance that the ANI/CID you are receiving is in >> fact valid. It is suppose to be but that is as far as you can go. >> >> On May 9, 2008, at 8:30 AM, Steve Totaro wrote: >>> Oh, I was speaking of inbound only LD (toll free) PRIs. Maybe I am >>> way off topic for this thread. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Steve Totaro >>> >>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Miles Scruggs >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> This belief is limited to your experience with PRIs. When you obtain >>>> SIP termination services from ATT, Verizon, or Level 3. They have no >>>> way of verifying what ANI/CID you are sending. It doesn't matter if >>>> you are calling 800s or not, they bill it back to the CID that you >>>> pass (not to say that your carrier won't bill you as well since they >>>> see the calls go through their switches, but they more than likely >>>> won't see the reciprocal billing from the receiving LEC). Want a >>>> proof of concept? Setup an account with a small terminating provider >>>> like Junction networks, send all your calls out with the ANI of your >>>> cell phone. Last step will be to recoil in horror next time you open >>>> your cell phone bill. I'm not saying they can't track you down, or >>>> trace abuse back to you, since everything is logged, but very little >>>> verification happens. >>>> >>>> If you are sending thousands of calls per day to a trunk that is >>>> outbound only, from thousands of different parties, you don't have to >>>> delve into to much logic to see the obvious result. >>>> >>>> Cheer >>>> >>>> Miles >>>> >>>> On May 9, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Steve Totaro wrote: >>>>> I may be wrong here but I do not believe that ANI can be spoofed. >>>>> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_identification >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Steve Totaro >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:03 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> Mike... The reason why collection services, skip tracers and >>>>>> private >>>>>> investigators ask to call back on their 800 toll free is simply >>>>>> because you >>>>>> can not spood your ANI to a 800 #. >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk >>>>>> Discussion<[email protected]> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] ANI >>>>>> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:29:48 -0500 >>>>>> >>>>>> Is the CID of a call to a toll free number really the ANI, >>>>>> therefore not >>>>>> spoofed or blocked? >>>>>> >>>>>> Someone who's opinion I respect said it generally is, but he wasn't >>>>>> sure. >>>>>> Since I have a potential customer coming to me with an ANI >>>>>> requirement, not >>>>>> a CID requirement, I figured I should make sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api- >>>>>>> digital.com-- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>>>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>>>>>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >>>>>> >>>>>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>>>>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >>>>> >>>>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>>>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >>>> >>>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >>> >>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >> >> asterisk-biz mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >> > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
