On 1/2/2024 5:55 AM, Joshua C. Colp wrote:
On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 6:41 AM Paul Kudla <p...@scom.ca <mailto:p...@scom.ca>> wrote:

    Good morning

    Note I am unable to confirm my new email on the group because the
    is using a blocked server ??

    mail19       01-02 05:35:51 {postfix.in <http://postfix.in>}  
     [63603] (1871410360) Jan 02
    05:35:51 mail19 postfix/smtpd[63603]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from

    web01.groups.io <http://web01.groups.io>[]: 454 4.7.1
    Service unavailable; Client
    host [] blocked using

    bl.spamcop.net <http://bl.spamcop.net>; Blocked - see

    to=<p...@scom.ca <mailto:p...@scom.ca>> proto=ESMTP

    helo=<mail01.groups.io <http://mail01.groups.io>>

    I did get the signup and also set my password but am unable to

    SPAMCOP.NET <http://SPAMCOP.NET> is super flexible (ie will track
    and update bad ip's on the
    fly within 24 hours, so to land on this list means a server has been
    very very bad.

    let me know if i can help further.

I don't think either of us can really help. Looking at groups.io <http://groups.io> posts this appears to happen sometimes, be it as a remaining result of a Yahoo migration that occurred in the past or from group admins adding email addresses for SpamCop spam traps in some capacity.

InterLinked: You previously stated that most lists you've been on migrated to groups.io <http://groups.io>, has this been a problem for them and if so how did they approach it (if at all)?

I have to be on at least 2 or 3 dozen groups.io lists at this point and I've not really seen this be much of a problem. It haven't seen it on any of my lists with 100+ members or really heard about it on other lists. Occasionally, maybe a couple times a year, there are *bounces* and I know groups.io will auto unsubscribe users if it gets bounces to comply with email subscription policies and what not. I don't have any specific experience with SpamCop, that isn't a service I use on my mail servers.

I think this is going to be inevitable to some extent with any hosted mailing list. groups.io has a pool of IPs that they use but obviously they are shared between lists. Digium has been self-hosting lists so it hasn't had to worry about this in the past.

groups.io also has an online portal where you can register and manage groups, but that probably entails receiving an email at some point so you might run into the same issue there if you can't receive email.

Can you add the sender to your "safe senders" lists? IMO email services that don't allow the spam rules to be overridden are fundamentally flawed, but I realize you may not have control over that or be able to switch services.

It probably doesn't hurt to get in touch with the guy that runs groups.io, here: https://groups.io/helpcenter. I and others have reached out before for things and he's helpful and responsive.

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