Thanks Richard. I will definitely look into this- My DSL is with
ww.aei.ca<http://ww.aei.ca>(montreal based), im not sure if it makes a
difference- but I will call Bell
regarding the "dry loop".
 Thanks,
Francis
www.voipware.ca <http://www.voipware.ca>


 On 9/14/05, Richard Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Bell Canada offers DSL only lines without dial tone.
>  You pay about half the price (maybe a bit less) of a dial tone line 
> coined "dry loop fee" on top of your DSL plan.
> 
> 
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> Richard Cook
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> *From:* Francis Ballares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:30 AM
> *To:* Ian Howard
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [on-asterisk] voip friendly ISPs in Toronto
> 
>   Ian,
>  try www.3web.com <http://www.3web.com/> - they have Cable and DSL 
> services that maybe available in your area. They have cheaper rates than 
> Rogers and Bell. 
>  Im planning to drop my pstn line too- but right now Im stuck with DSL- 
> which I understand that it can't work without an analog phone line/number.
>  I hope this helps you.
>   Francis Ballares
> www.voipware.ca <http://www.voipware.ca/> 
>  
>  On 9/14/05, Ian Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> > on-asterisk,
> > 
> > I am soon returning to Toronto and am curious as to your impressions of
> > ISPs. I have been shopping around; my investigation led to magma, whom 
> > seems great but I am at an impasse due to the fact that I need to pay 
> > about
> > $20/month for a phone line (they use Bell's DSL service), which I hadn't
> > intended to use. My plan was to simply use my unlimitel voip account. 
> > Thus, this leaves me with rogers. Have you found a solution to this
> > problem? I am hoping to find a service that is about the same as roger's
> > $45 3MB down/800K up service. Most important I believe is to have an ISP 
> > 
> > that provides a QoS for voip; which I suspect the answer is there aren't
> > any in the residential market today in Toronto (based on recent
> > threads). Am I stuck with Rogers, or do I have another choice?
> > 
> > Ian
> > 
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> 
> Francis Ballares
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